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A few questions I have
Old 07-08-2011, 05:15 PM   #1
 
A few questions I have

Hello all, I have been using my tank since 2007 I have black dyed rocks and the paint I guess is coming off (no I didn't paint them) what I want to do is replace the gravel in there with these bags of brown gravel that I have. How difficult of a process is that?

Next question I have a Fluval 305 canister filter and I notice after each time I clean it out all this stuff comes out of the output tube and into the tank these little white fuzzy things. How would I eliminate that? that's after I clean my tank too

3rd question is how often do you wait to change out your filter media? I have had my canister for a year and never changed out any of the media I just rinse it off but I replaced all 4 of the foam pads today because yuck it looked like sludge in there. Thanks guys and gals for your answers.

Also I am thinking about posting pics in my Album on here of my big Suriname toad and also my 55 gallon tank with my community fish.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:43 PM   #2
 
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Hello all, I have been using my tank since 2007 I have black dyed rocks and the paint I guess is coming off (no I didn't paint them) what I want to do is replace the gravel in there with these bags of brown gravel that I have. How difficult of a process is that?

Next question I have a Fluval 305 canister filter and I notice after each time I clean it out all this stuff comes out of the output tube and into the tank these little white fuzzy things. How would I eliminate that? that's after I clean my tank too

3rd question is how often do you wait to change out your filter media? I have had my canister for a year and never changed out any of the media I just rinse it off but I replaced all 4 of the foam pads today because yuck it looked like sludge in there. Thanks guys and gals for your answers.

Also I am thinking about posting pics in my Album on here of my big Suriname toad and also my 55 gallon tank with my community fish.

I just bought a used Fluval, so I do want to see replies you get. I did read in the reviews that this happens, were the old water/junk kicks back in. As far as media, I have always heard that you never change everything at once, and as far as sponges, you should rinse them perhaps once a month in old tank water, but use until they are falling apart. If you still have them, you may want to put at least one back, because you have gotten rid of a lot of your good bacteria. As far as replacing gravel, that isn't so difficult, you can get a mesh bag and save some of the old gravel and just put it in the mesh bag in your tank, because it has good bacteria. And after it's scooped out add the new stuff (rinsed well of course). You may want to move your fish to a holding container/bucket while you do it.

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Old 07-08-2011, 06:40 PM   #3
 
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I just bought a used Fluval, so I do want to see replies you get. I did read in the reviews that this happens, were the old water/junk kicks back in. As far as media, I have always heard that you never change everything at once, and as far as sponges, you should rinse them perhaps once a month in old tank water, but use until they are falling apart. If you still have them, you may want to put at least one back, because you have gotten rid of a lot of your good bacteria. As far as replacing gravel, that isn't so difficult, you can get a mesh bag and save some of the old gravel and just put it in the mesh bag in your tank, because it has good bacteria. And after it's scooped out add the new stuff (rinsed well of course). You may want to move your fish to a holding container/bucket while you do it.

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I wonder what exactly that stuff is that comes back. As far as the tank I will admit with college and stuff I got lazy with the tank and haven't cleaned the filter or tank water in a few months just been so busy but taking a break for the summer. I would of reused the old sponges that go in the front of the filter but they were horrible and I'm amazed any water passed through so I had no choice in the matter or else I would of reused them. I guess I will wait and see what happens with the filter I mean I left plenty of good bacteria in the filter it's self so I guess time will tell. I would like to change out filter media but not too sure what kind I can put in and what stage in my filter to put certain types of filter media. I hate the gravel that's in there I had no clue that the dye that's on there comes off. I hope within the next few weeks to change out the gravel. Would I stress the fish out if I had to siphon the tank water in a bucket and put them in there while I put the new gravel in? Thanks for replying back before Gwen I appreciate it
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:45 PM   #4
 
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Putting the fish in a bucket to switch the gravel shouldnt be too big of an issue for them IF you do it quickly. (And depending on the size and amount of fish, multiple buckets might work better to help keep ammonia down... also, if you have live plants, throwing in some stem plants into each bucket couldnt hurt.

Dont move the fish until the new gravel is washed clean and ready to go... you could even pull out the old gravel with the fish and such still in the tank, and only remove the fish to put in the new gravel and do a heavy water change.

As for the filter question, I dont personally deal with canisters, I use HOBs. But Gwen is very right on the fact that the majority of your beneficial bacteria lives on filter media. Proper upkeep of any filter and its media should limit or erase any kick back stuff, or so it is true with HOBs. Regular filter maintenance is just as important as water changes for your tank.

Hope this helps you out a bit Chris, and welcome back to TFK.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:30 PM   #5
 
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Some of this has been mentioned, but it's easier for me to keep issues complete, so bear with me.

Filters should be rinsed as necessary to keep the water flowing normally. As that gunk builds, it will clog the media and slow the water. It also significantly impacts the various bacteria, something I have posted about recently in another thread [an article on bacteria will appear shortly in the Freshwater Article section]. The time this takes depends upon the system, as the filter size, tank size, number and type of fish, live plants, water change schedule, gravel vacuuming--all have an impact. But rinse the pads and media regularly as needed. I find my 115g tank with a Rena XP3 needs rinsing every 6-8 weeks; my 90g and 70g both with an Eheim canister need it maybe every 3-4 months.

Having live plants also significantly impacts this. Filter maintenance is more critical in non-planted tanks because you are there relying solely on the bacteria, not plants, to keep the water "clean."

The gunk that spurts into the tank when the filter is switched on after being cleaned comes from the hoses. As water runs through filter hose, it deposits "stuff" which adheres to the walls. The more intense flow of water following the emptying of a filter often dislodges this, and sends it obviously into the tank. It will do no harm, I let it go. Another member had a good idea, she holds a fish net over the outflow tube when the filter comes on and most of this stuff is caught.

I never replace filter media like the ceramic disks or the "rock" material. They are rinsed only. The pads I rinse thoroughly, and replace when they show signs of wear that will allow water to easily get around them rather than through them.

Last word on the gravel, i had the same issue many years ago; some gravels are coated and it can eventually come off. Always buy natural stone gravels that have no coating, just the gravel, and in dark shades which are better for the fish. And I prefer emptying the tank to change the substrate. Leave the filter intact, don't clean it when you do this, to preserve bacteria. There is actually more bacteria in the substrate and elsewhere in the tank than in the filter anyway, but removing so much from the substrate means you want to keep the other as much as possible. Here again, live plants make this easy, they deal with ammonia better.

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Old 07-09-2011, 05:42 PM   #6
 
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Some of this has been mentioned, but it's easier for me to keep issues complete, so bear with me.

Filters should be rinsed as necessary to keep the water flowing normally. As that gunk builds, it will clog the media and slow the water. It also significantly impacts the various bacteria, something I have posted about recently in another thread [an article on bacteria will appear shortly in the Freshwater Article section]. The time this takes depends upon the system, as the filter size, tank size, number and type of fish, live plants, water change schedule, gravel vacuuming--all have an impact. But rinse the pads and media regularly as needed. I find my 115g tank with a Rena XP3 needs rinsing every 6-8 weeks; my 90g and 70g both with an Eheim canister need it maybe every 3-4 months.

Having live plants also significantly impacts this. Filter maintenance is more critical in non-planted tanks because you are there relying solely on the bacteria, not plants, to keep the water "clean."

The gunk that spurts into the tank when the filter is switched on after being cleaned comes from the hoses. As water runs through filter hose, it deposits "stuff" which adheres to the walls. The more intense flow of water following the emptying of a filter often dislodges this, and sends it obviously into the tank. It will do no harm, I let it go. Another member had a good idea, she holds a fish net over the outflow tube when the filter comes on and most of this stuff is caught.

I never replace filter media like the ceramic disks or the "rock" material. They are rinsed only. The pads I rinse thoroughly, and replace when they show signs of wear that will allow water to easily get around them rather than through them.

Last word on the gravel, i had the same issue many years ago; some gravels are coated and it can eventually come off. Always buy natural stone gravels that have no coating, just the gravel, and in dark shades which are better for the fish. And I prefer emptying the tank to change the substrate. Leave the filter intact, don't clean it when you do this, to preserve bacteria. There is actually more bacteria in the substrate and elsewhere in the tank than in the filter anyway, but removing so much from the substrate means you want to keep the other as much as possible. Here again, live plants make this easy, they deal with ammonia better.

Byron.
Byron I appreciate you answering my questions I have seen you in other forums on here you seem very knowledgeable. I'm glad to know that I am handling my filter right I guess I will keep rinsing out the 4 sponges that are in there and if they get blocked up just replace them as need be like you said. With what you said about the gravel should I remove the fish like what the other members suggested? I want to eventually get real plants but I just have a few concerns about it. Sorry if I'm jumping around here from topic to topic. The gravel I picked out is like a light brownish color I'm hoping they are natural and not dyed. I look forward to seeing your article on bacteria being posted.
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Old 07-09-2011, 05:54 PM   #7
 
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Byron I appreciate you answering my questions I have seen you in other forums on here you seem very knowledgeable. I'm glad to know that I am handling my filter right I guess I will keep rinsing out the 4 sponges that are in there and if they get blocked up just replace them as need be like you said. With what you said about the gravel should I remove the fish like what the other members suggested? I want to eventually get real plants but I just have a few concerns about it. Sorry if I'm jumping around here from topic to topic. The gravel I picked out is like a light brownish color I'm hoping they are natural and not dyed. I look forward to seeing your article on bacteria being posted.
Yes, to replace the entire substrate (which I prefer to do when it is something different to avoid them mixing, also one bout of crashing about the tank is enough for the fish) I would remove the fish. Depending upon how many, a bucket or buckets may work, or a spare tank. For times like this I keep a spare 20g high tank on the storeroom shelf and just sit it on something stable next to or close to the tank, the filter can be placed in it running, and some form of cover as many fish will jump in such situations.

The filter pads/sponges can be rinsed to keep them clear, but eventually they will start to fall apart or thin too much, esp the white pads, and they need replacing then.

Live plants are beneficial and need not be difficult. Any substrate, a decent light (replacing the tub/bulbs is usually all this requires) and maybe some liquid fertilizer once a week.

Thanks for the kind words.

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