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post #1 of 5 Old 01-28-2012, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
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A few questions about temps and test kits

I have a few questions:
I have my betta in a 3 gallon "tank" with a heater. Temp stays at 78 degrees. I do a 33 percent water change every day on it since it has no filter.
1) Do I need to still test the water for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates?

My 10 gallon tank, using the same style and type of thermometer ( Aquarium Heaters: Tetra Submersible Heaters ) that I have in my betta tank and the same brand and model of heater, my temps read 82 degrees. The particular heaters that I bought are good for tanks 2-10 gallon. The 10 gallon is cycled. Ammonia and nitrite measured "0" today. I don't have a nitrate test kit. It has 2 otos, 2 mollies, 2 platties and about 8 or 9 molly fry in it. Is the temperature okay?

I also need to buy another question. I only want to test for nitrites, nitrates and ammonia. I always use the proper dose of water conditioners when I do a water change. My ph and hardness falls within acceptable ranges and has never once changed since October. I was looking at this for a testing kit:
Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Freshwater Master and Mini Test Kits - Water Conditioners - Fish - PetSmart

Is this a good one? Or would I just be better off buying individual testing kits for ammonia, nitrite and nitrates?

Thanks!

Mom to three cats: Phantom the Klingon (Phantom for short), Patches (also called Crash and YOU LITTLE SNOT!), and Mooch (who pretty much lives up to her name), Flash (crowntail betta), Itsy and Bitsy (oto cat fish), Charlie (black molly), Spot (dalmation molly), Dusk and Sunrise (sunburst platties). All are raw fed
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post #2 of 5 Old 01-28-2012, 09:01 PM
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Yes you need to test for all three with no filter. With nothing to remove the waste then it can quickly build up to levels toxic to the fish.

Ammonia and Nitrite are extremely toxic to fish, nitrate not so much (nitrate is lowered via water changes), ammonia and nitrite are the produce of not enough good bacteria breaking the waste down.

Those test kits are very reliable and a lot of people use them on here, there is no harm in getting them as they will be good for an awful lot of tests and will put you in good stead should you upgrade in the future.

The temperature is fine although the ottos should be in a 20g tank, they also need a planted tank.

The platys and mollies are fine at that temperature and size of tank, you can actually add 2 more of each as long as you remove the otto.

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I have a few questions:
I have my betta in a 3 gallon "tank" with a heater. Temp stays at 78 degrees. I do a 33 percent water change every day on it since it has no filter.
1) Do I need to still test the water for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates?

My 10 gallon tank, using the same style and type of thermometer ( Aquarium Heaters: Tetra Submersible Heaters ) that I have in my betta tank and the same brand and model of heater, my temps read 82 degrees. The particular heaters that I bought are good for tanks 2-10 gallon. The 10 gallon is cycled. Ammonia and nitrite measured "0" today. I don't have a nitrate test kit. It has 2 otos, 2 mollies, 2 platties and about 8 or 9 molly fry in it. Is the temperature okay?

I also need to buy another question. I only want to test for nitrites, nitrates and ammonia. I always use the proper dose of water conditioners when I do a water change. My ph and hardness falls within acceptable ranges and has never once changed since October. I was looking at this for a testing kit:
Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Freshwater Master and Mini Test Kits - Water Conditioners - Fish - PetSmart

Is this a good one? Or would I just be better off buying individual testing kits for ammonia, nitrite and nitrates?

Thanks!
The mollies will be fine at 80 to 82 degree's but that is too warm for platy's who would prefer cooler water around 76 degree's or lower.
If you are changing water each day or every other day with conditoner such as PRIME then you prolly don't need a test kit assuming you don't add any more fish to the tank and aren't overfeeding.
Personally, I would purchase a filter for the tank and keep up with the water changes like you are now, for three to four weeks longer and by this time,,the filter will have a bacterial colony to process the waste from the fish and you could get by with once weekly water change.
Adding some floating plant's to the tank such as Pennywort would provide benefit by helping to remove ammonia,nitrates,and also provide a place for the small fish to hide and feed.

The most important medication in your fish medicine cabinet is.. Clean water.
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post #4 of 5 Old 01-28-2012, 11:38 PM Thread Starter
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I have a filter for the 10 gallon, not the 2.5 gallon that the betta is in. Been testing my waters frequently. Finally figured out why my temp was so high (the lamp sitting on the side table next to the fish stand). Moved it.

I am changing the 2.5 gallon every day. I don't want a build up of nitrites, nitrates or ammonia. I do a 25 percent change on the 10 gallon twice a week. Once a day, I take a baster and get any uneatened food or waste from the surface of the gravel on my 10 gallon tank. Probably remove a half gallon of water doing that.

The 10 gallon tank is cycled (*big sigh*) finally after 2 months of pure aggravation. But, it's all good. No traces of anything toxic.

Mom to three cats: Phantom the Klingon (Phantom for short), Patches (also called Crash and YOU LITTLE SNOT!), and Mooch (who pretty much lives up to her name), Flash (crowntail betta), Itsy and Bitsy (oto cat fish), Charlie (black molly), Spot (dalmation molly), Dusk and Sunrise (sunburst platties). All are raw fed
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post #5 of 5 Old 01-28-2012, 11:48 PM Thread Starter
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I'm beginning to think I got a defective thermometer. Another one reads 78 degrees, which is what the heater is set to. This one is still reading 82 degrees. Time for a new one. Yippee...

Mom to three cats: Phantom the Klingon (Phantom for short), Patches (also called Crash and YOU LITTLE SNOT!), and Mooch (who pretty much lives up to her name), Flash (crowntail betta), Itsy and Bitsy (oto cat fish), Charlie (black molly), Spot (dalmation molly), Dusk and Sunrise (sunburst platties). All are raw fed
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