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post #1 of 6 Old 07-16-2011, 07:35 AM Thread Starter
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A few dumb questions about a planted tank.

These questions have allways been in the back of my mind so I might aswell ask.How in the world do you siphon a heavly planted tank?As in a tank thats completely carpted in baby tears for example.I dont think you can uproot them....Can you gently siphon them maybe? I was also curois about co2 systems,are they necessary if you have easy to care for plants like sword plants or are they needed for healthy plant growth regardless?
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post #2 of 6 Old 07-16-2011, 07:48 AM
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My tanks are very heavily planted. I do work around the plants a little (very gently) when I am siphoning the tank. If the area is completely covered you can just gently siphon the plant itself or hover over it and gently move the siphon back and forth.

I have several different kinds of plants in my tanks and I don't have a co2 set up. I simply dose with Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the planted Aquarium. I do that 2 times a week. Balance that with your lighting and you will have more plants then you know what to do with in no time. ha ha Today, I just had to do a major clean out of my plants because they were getting HUGE and out of hand. It will be all filled out again in no time. Some plants grow much fast then others, obviously. :)

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I would recommend never touching the substrate. I never do in any of my tanks. You can read the explanation in my article on bacteria, here:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-74891/
There is a section covering the substrate, but reading the rest of the article will put it in a better perspective for understanding things.

As Inga said, CO2 addition is not required for healthy plant growth. If you read my 4-part article at the head of the Aquarium Plants section ["A Basic Approach to the Natural Planted Aquarium"] you will find that it is all about balance. Light and 17 nutrients must be balanced, and the plants will grow at that level. Increasing CO2 for example creates a new balance, a higher one, meaning more light intensity and more of the other 16 nutrients. Plants will usually grow faster with higher levels, but they will still grow if more slowly and be healthy and performing their filtration tasks with lower levels, what we term natural or low-tech approach.

Baby tears is not an easy plant for many, so if you are growing that successfully without CO2, you have no reason to add it.

And questions are never dumb; success comes with knowledge.

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Thanks this is a big help!
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post #5 of 6 Old 07-17-2011, 04:06 PM Thread Starter
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I just got done discussing what you just tokd me with my neibor and, she says that never touching the gravel would make your ph go sky high.Your tanks are very pretty and your fish seem ok though....so youve confused me.Do you use a under gravel filture or somthing maybe?
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I just got done discussing what you just tokd me with my neibor and, she says that never touching the gravel would make your ph go sky high.Your tanks are very pretty and your fish seem ok though....so youve confused me.Do you use a under gravel filture or somthing maybe?
First, we are talking planted tanks. That makes a difference. And I can guarantee that many of the planted tank members here will tell you they leave the substrate alone.

Second, she is mistaken on the pH, it would not go high but low, in other words, acidic, which may have been what she meant. But having said that, it is all part of a balanced system where each part keeps the other parts in check.

Rather than explain the nitrogen cycle and bacteria, I'll link you to my article on this topic from the Freshwater Articles section:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-74891/
The substrate section details this, but the whole article (4 posts) will put it all in perspective.

This will hopefully explain it, but feel free to ask questions.

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