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Old 05-09-2012, 02:28 PM   #11
 
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Oddly enough in the small town I live in the LFS has Farlowella vittata for sale.

All the other pet stores around D.C. I went to don't even have them.
It is a fish that does not sell well [not "flashy" enough], and it is expensive (at least where I live) to boot. I paid I think $12 each for my 3 when I got them almost 4 years ago. I saw them in a store last week and they were $16.

Like all wild caught fish, they are seasonal, available after the time of year when they can be caught in their habitat.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:34 PM   #12
 
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My pet smart sells true twig catfish... I never thought they were rare. Also cheaper than my LFS's whiptails.
If I remember correctly, isn't 0.1 of a pH a ten times difference? So 7 and 7.3 are a 30 times difference? I'm not totally sure how pH affects fish though (probably in that article Byron wrote that I didn't get a chance to read yet!)
Hardness can be a problem, a fish kept in too hard water gets kidney problems, since it's kidneys are put through much more strain filtering minerals than they are adapted to. This of course shortens lifespan.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:03 PM   #13
 
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Farlowella vittata is unlikely to be tank raised unless the store has a breeder to supply them, like a hobbyist or something. This species is usually wild caught. And they are sensitive to GH and pH. This is all in the profile.

The Whiptail Catfish is much more adaptable.

You mentioned the pH is 7.3, what is the GH and KH?

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How do I test for GH and KH? I have a API test kit that measures PH, Nitrates, Nitrites, and ammonia so I assume i need to buy another kit to test for those?

I really like the Whiptail's i think they are very cool fish that will help round out my tank plus I heard they are very good on string alge.

I think this is the fish one of my LFS were talking about since he said they grow to about 8 inches. Tropical Fish for Freshwater Aquariums: Royal Farlowella Catfish
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:06 PM   #14
 
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Byron,

How do I test for GH and KH? I have a API test kit that measures PH, Nitrates, Nitrites, and ammonia so I assume i need to buy another kit to test for those?

I really like the Whiptail's i think they are very cool fish that will help round out my tank plus I heard they are very good on string alge.

I think this is the fish one of my LFS were talking about since he said they grow to about 8 inches. Tropical Fish for Freshwater Aquariums: Royal Farlowella Catfish
You are correct in the fact that you need to get another test kit to measure gH and kH

GH & KH Test Kit - API
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:35 PM   #15
 
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You are correct in the fact that you need to get another test kit to measure gH and kH

GH & KH Test Kit - API
After work it is off to the store :)
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:40 PM   #16
 
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After work it is off to the store :)
Save your money. Unless you intend adjusting the GH or KH of your tank water, you will not use the GH/KH test more than once to ascertain the tap water numbers. So a better idea is to contact the water supply folks, they may have a website with water data posted. If not, they can tell you, this is public info. And if that doesn't work for some strange reason, take a sample of the tap water (not tank water) to a reliable fish store and ask for a GH and KH test--and make sure they give you the numbers, not some vague "fairly hard" meaningless term.

GH and KH in an aquarium will not change from the source water (tap) unless it is targeted directly by you. This is briefly mentioned in this article:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-73276/
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:43 PM   #17
 
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I think this is the fish one of my LFS were talking about since he said they grow to about 8 inches. Tropical Fish for Freshwater Aquariums: Royal Farlowella Catfish
That is a different species altogether. It needs a larger tank.
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Old 05-09-2012, 04:50 PM   #18
 
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My pet smart sells true twig catfish... I never thought they were rare. Also cheaper than my LFS's whiptails.
If I remember correctly, isn't 0.1 of a pH a ten times difference? So 7 and 7.3 are a 30 times difference? I'm not totally sure how pH affects fish though (probably in that article Byron wrote that I didn't get a chance to read yet!)
Hardness can be a problem, a fish kept in too hard water gets kidney problems, since it's kidneys are put through much more strain filtering minerals than they are adapted to. This of course shortens lifespan.
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Each degree, being from say 6 to 7 or 7 to 8, is a ten-fold increase/decrease in acidity depending which way you're going. So if the pH is 6, the pH of 7 is 10 times less acidic. And being a logarithmic scale, the change from pH 7 to pH 8 is 10 times 10 or 100 times less acidic that pH 6. You can see how crucial this is to the fish, if he is meant to live in water that is 5-6 (which Farlowella are) and we place him in pH 7.5 this is major.

Normally a few decimal points will make little if any difference, though there are situations where it might. One is when going either side of neutral, that is significant.

The pH of the fish's blood is impacted by the pH of the water entering the cells, as it does continually. The fish has to work to maintain a constant pH in its blood, this is part of the physiological homeostasis, and the further the pH in the water is from the pH that nature intended for the species, or to which it has evolved over eons, the more energy it takes and it causes stress. The stress article will hopefully help here.

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That is a different species altogether. It needs a larger tank.
If i do pick these up they will be going into a 150 gallon tank. I will take some of my water down to the LFS to see if they will actually be compatable for the species.
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Old 05-09-2012, 07:13 PM   #20
 
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If i do pick these up they will be going into a 150 gallon tank. I will take some of my water down to the LFS to see if they will actually be compatable for the species.
The so-called "Royal Farlowella" is a species of Sturisoma, most likely either Sturisoma panamense or S. aureum. Neither are in our profiles (yet anyway). There are 17 species in this genus on Planet Catfish, here's the link to the photo ID page. You will find info on water in the descriptions. They may be different from species to species.
The genus Sturisoma

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