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Eradicating MTS and Baking Substrate
Old 05-23-2013, 01:04 PM   #21
 
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Why do you want to save as much water as you can?? All you'd be doing is transferring nitrates back into the tank.... The only amount of water that you should save is the amount that is in the bucket containing your fish. Once you are done setting up the tank and filling it back up with water, simply acclimate the fish to the new water like you would if you were bringing home new fish.
Because I are not the bright? Honestly, I don't even know how I have a well-established and, by the water parameters, healthy aquarium. The first year of keeping fish was a dicey crap-shoot. The second year was/has been maintaining what I managed to eek out at the end of the first year. I haven't done a tear-down/reconstruction in a year, and the last time was under duress thanks to a leaky seal and ignorance. I guess with that instant tear down and relocation we kept as much water, substrate, and filter media as we possibly could. Since I'd be getting rid of the filter media and substrate, I guess the water can go, too.

Since I use a sump filter for the 72, could I get away with filling a large container or two with the substrate, filter media, and water and get a head start on the cycling process so that when I go to rebuild the tank, I primarily have to just relocate the stuff in the containers with the cycle well underway?


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or maybe a quicker solution would be to pour in a bottle of flourish excel! hehe altho im not sure it will work ...
The snails have lived through heavy copper and ammonia doses. While the idea sounds fine, I don't trust it enough to spend even more time/money on the excel. The idea, however, did get a chuckle out of me; I feel badly, but not too badly, about the snail genocide.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:12 PM   #22
 
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MTS are nearly indestructible


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But they'll die if they're exposed to 212+`f for at least several minutes, right? As in, in a pot over the stove, and in a maintained boil kind of exposed?

ALSO AS IN regardless if I re-use the substrate, I do not want to contaminate my local water sources/environment with a non-native species. In that regard, will boiling in salt water and letting them dry out kill the snail?

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Old 05-23-2013, 01:36 PM   #24
 
so why not try just caping the aquarium with food wrapping? like I said before remove any plants or anything that will provide oxygen then just cap it off tightly. You should be left with only dead snails in not too long!
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:49 PM   #25
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It would take a long time to smother snails that way.

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Old 05-23-2013, 01:53 PM   #26
 
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so why not try just caping the aquarium with food wrapping? like I said before remove any plants or anything that will provide oxygen then just cap it off tightly. You should be left with only dead snails in not too long!
I'd fear the ammonia spike that would result from allowing them all to die in the substrate. I'm still dealing with the ammonia spike from the decaying snails.

I imaging a DIY CO2 system would expedite the eradication of the snails, but would still leave me with all of the carcasses.

With removing the substrate, at least I can pick out many of the dead ones before I return any gravel to the tank, thus reducing the impact of their decomposition on the aquarium environment.

Oh, and before i went to bed, I noticed some snails began to emerge so I got these photographs. The lights hadn't been off for too long, so they were just beginning to rise.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:55 PM   #27
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With removing the substrate, at least I can pick out many of the dead ones before I return any gravel to the tank, thus reducing the impact of their decomposition on the aquarium environment.
One little snail.... two little snails.... three little snails....

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Old 05-23-2013, 01:57 PM   #28
 
maybe long but probably less offort then baking / redoing the entire aquarium from scratch
you simply cap and wait ... even cockroach cant live with out air, even tho they can live an extreme amount of time with out it!
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:00 PM   #29
 
omg that is ridiculous! what are they feeding on?
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:03 PM   #30
 
I can see why you would just want to start back from the ground up!
you would be left with a substrat of snail shells
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