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Old 09-21-2007, 09:51 PM   #11
 
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What Gump and Lupin say are very wise words. Here in Texas we have seen the effects of this first hand with lakes abundant with non-native plecos and catfish. I personally fish one lake that has huge Tilapia (that's right - Tilapia here in Texas!). They were introduced as bait for the freshwater redfish in the lake (it's a REALLY great fishing lake!!) and have become a menace. There is no limit on the catch - size or amount - year round, and the only rule is they can't leave the grounds without being fileted or processed (to ensure no further infestations).

Back to the point - you don't have to get rid of this cat asap - you just can't keep him for the long term. You have a few months to see if anyone on Aquabid or here would have the proper resources to house him. The important part is that you communicate the needs of the fish when you get rid of him to insure someone else doesn't try to put him in an aquarium. And if all else fails (as was mentioned), try to make a donation to a local public aquarium if you have one, last but not least, take him back to the LFS, and hope no one else makes the same mistake.

If you put him in your parents pond he could very well disrupt the established cats environment, but worse - if the pond flooded he could move to other areas.

Hope this helps,
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Old 09-23-2007, 07:04 AM   #12
 
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Thankyou for your advice, i will not release him. Just felt a bit upset when people were talking about killing him. How big of a tank would i need to house him? Also I take it this fish grows nomatter the size of the tank? I am going to take your advice and not release him. Just I thought in a huge pond, and not being a mate with him, it would be a good idea. Thankyou for your thoughts.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:58 PM   #13
 
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I just wanted to add here, just in case, that shells raise the pH of the water. I'm no expert on this topic, but something to do with the calcium I believe. You may want to watch your pH also. My water naturally has a high pH and my son added some shells to his tank, these were old shells that I've had for years. They were rinsed (soaked) well before being added. I suspect they are what killed our African Dwarf Frogs...
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:23 PM   #14
 
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I think you were right about the shells. I decided to do a complete water change. Got rid of the shells, and added stone. The water looks crystal clear now. The fish seem to be alot less stressed. Thankyou for the advice on the shells. I think the big problem with the shells was the fact that the shells were so finely ground. Thankyou for the advice.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:27 PM   #15
 
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Thankyou for your advice, i will not release him. Just felt a bit upset when people were talking about killing him. How big of a tank would i need to house him? Also I take it this fish grows nomatter the size of the tank? I am going to take your advice and not release him. Just I thought in a huge pond, and not being a mate with him, it would be a good idea. Thankyou for your thoughts.
2000g or above to keep him long term.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:37 PM   #16
 
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So the RTC will outgrow his tank? I thought most fish stopped growing if they are kept in a smaller tank.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:40 PM   #17
 
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So the RTC will outgrow his tank? I thought most fish stopped growing if they are kept in a smaller tank.
They do. This is because their growth is stunted and they die, or they simply die before their growth is stunted. Cruel IMHO.

It's good however that you ask these questions rather than just popping him in a tank and having him suffer.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:46 PM   #18
 
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I guess the sad thing is, I love catfish. And i find the one to be a very good looking kind of cat. I wish I could house the poor guy. So it is your opinion that it is not ok to put him in my fathers pond? The reason I wonder this is nobody has the ability to house this little guy. I think that is why he was given to the LFS. I understand its never good to release into the wild. But I was wondering since its a very large pond, and loaded with chanel cat if it could be a good idea. I feel that him being the only RTC in the pond, that he would not reproduce. Yes he would grow large, but in that eco system, im not sure he would do any damage. I just dont want to have to put the guy down :(. I will not release him if you do not think its a good idea.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:51 PM   #19
 
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Personally I wouldn't.

If your fathers pond is a HUGE garden pond of thousands of gallons, and there is absoluutely no way he could escape no matter how flooded the pond became, and those channel cats are fish that he bought at a store, not caught, in order to put in the pond then it's your call. If not however, I wouldn't only not recommend it but it is illegal like has been said said.

I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea how a RTC and channel cat would get on so can't help there.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:55 PM   #20
 
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It is a large pond, about an acre and a half. With depth of 17 feet. I do understand the fear of it excaping, but its not in a flood zone, and away from and rivers or streams. I think it would honestly be a great fish to catch once it got larger (NOT TO KILL). Just an idea.
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