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post #251 of 308 Old 01-27-2013, 04:46 PM
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I love MTS - have them in all of my planted, sandy tanks *nods*
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Why though? Whats the benefits?

And do they not over breed and you have millions of them?
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Why though? Whats the benefits?

And do they not over breed and you have millions of them?
Any of the small snails (Malaysian Livebearing, pond snails, acute bladder snails) are valuable in any freshwater aquarium. Consider them your helpmates in maintaining a healthy aquarium; they get into places the aquarist can't, eating organic matter and algae. They break down larger bits more quickly than without them, making it easier for bacteria.

The added benefit of MLS is their burrowing throughout the substrate. Even if they only move through the top half, as some have suggested, they still do a good job of aerating the substrate, making it easier for plant roots and bacteria as this keeps the water flows through the substrate. They also eat fine algae off of plant leaves, helping to keep the leaves free of debris for a better exchange of nutrients.

It is true that MLS can increase rapidly--and this is not entirely due to food as some believe. Even without fish in the tank, these snails still manage to maintain very stable populations. Nevertheless, considering their beneficial role, they are well worth it.

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Ok, i just took the plunge and dropped 10 into my main tank thats gravel, and has wood that likes to grow #poo# on it.

This tank does contain 6 botia kubotai......so its up to the snails what they do/if they survive......i cant see as the lights are out!

55G tall planted community
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Ok, i just took the plunge and dropped 10 into my main tank thats gravel, and has wood that likes to grow #poo# on it.

This tank does contain 6 botia kubotai......so its up to the snails what they do/if they survive......i cant see as the lights are out!
My B. kubnotai keep the snail population well down in their tank. This is the only tank in which I never see them when I sit and view the tank, though there must be some in the substrate. I do find the young snails in the canister filter when I clean it, so they are coming from somewhere.

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I've never had a problem with mine getting out of hand, and I have them in every one of my tanks. Of course, I have no idea how many there actually are in there, either! I've been very careful to keep all pond snails and bladder snails out of my tanks - I just don't like them. But MTS - I really love. My daughter calls them unicorn horn snails ;)
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I'd love to get my hands on some MTS, but no one around here sells them. I'm going to try and buy some in the spring when the weather is better, I don't want them freezing on the trip here.

Byron, I thought pond snails were bladder snails? Could you explain the difference? I have snails in my tank that came from the river and I truthfully have no idea which they are.

Also, as to shells. What about dropping in some of the really small snail babies? Like the ones that are specks on the glass? You could probably scrape them off and put them in a pipette. I'd think the shells would be a bit softer when they're that young.
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post #258 of 308 Old 01-27-2013, 08:41 PM
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Jen... I got my first MTS from PetSmart. They get them in with their Apple snail and plant shipments, but don't sell them, so they've given me some for free a few times. I've heard that PetCo actually sells them as well, and if you can't find them, give it a month or two and I'll ship you some. I sent some over to my friend in Florida, and they made the trip just fine - these guys are indestructible!

I'm not sure if the shells are softer when they're little - but with MTS at least, it's definitely easier for fish to nibble on them! I had to have a user on here send me some of his larger adults for the 55 because SOMEONE - either the rams or the loaches, I have no idea (suspect the former), was snacking on the babies! The shells were intact, but the snails were gone :/ I stopped having problems when I got a decent supply of larger adults to keep the population up, and now I have them spread through ALL of my tanks, so plenty to spare should you want a few.
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I've only glanced briefly at the snail tanks in Petco and I only really noticed mystery snails in there, but I will definitely get a better look at them next time I'm there.
Thank you! :D If I can't find them I'll for sure let you know, I think they're the coolest snails ever :D

I actually think my loaches are starting to eat my snails...I found an empty shell today which I've never seen before. It may have just died of natural causes but...I don't know. My loaches will eat anything, I swear.
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I don't want them freezing on the trip here.
Rather unlikely...though if you actually wanted them, this is the time they probably would freeze.

There was an article on MLS in Amazonas a couple issues back that was quite interesting. I think Mary Bailey was the author, but I might be mixing things. Anyway, she said that these snails are almost indestructible. They have been known by her to survive freezing in buckets of gravel outside in the winter that froze solid, they have survived total drying out, and even extreme heat.

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Byron, I thought pond snails were bladder snails? Could you explain the difference? I have snails in my tank that came from the river and I truthfully have no idea which they are.
I always get these mixed up as they look identical (to me), perhaps because I have seen the snail I have referred to by both names elsewhere. The pond snail is Lymnaea stagnalis and the acute bladder snail is Physella acuta. The pond attains up to 2+ inches, and the shell is much more pointed. I think what I have must be the acute bladder snail.

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