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Old 06-27-2013, 10:35 PM   #21
 
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AND YET ANOTHER UPDATE

Sad news: I couldn't get the same light set-up as before. However, thanks to a few housemates I was able to set up a type of lighting, that I had been interested in previously doing. I'd describe it, but a picture is worth a thousand words! See if you can spot the moss ball :P ( omething I just never mentioned in any of the posts for some reason...probably because they are so bloody resilient)

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1st Image: So! Here we are with the tank all set up, the light fixtures are a bit unorthodox, but they are working so that's the important part! Each is running a 25 watt bulb, for a total of 50 watts. I know the 'watts per gallon' rule is a bit outdated, but it's still a decent rule of thumb. Anyway, in case no one wants to do the math, this 10 gallon tank is now running 5 watts per gallon. I know that's a bit high for the plants I have, but we'll just have to manage. XD The lights are going to be running about 9-10 hrs a day. You can also see the water has cleared up fairly well, and the filter/ light timer can be seen off to the left side there. I'm fairly certain the water issue is caused by bacteria,so only time can really solve it.

2nd Image: The healthier of the original sword plants, aka 'mama plant', still has a good runner growing from her,and a wee plant growing as well.To the left you can see one of the better looking java ferns that I'm hoping will attach to gravel, and ,to the right in the fore ground, one of the small sword plants taken off of 'mama plant'. Cooper-Trooper is visible as well, but I'll have to do something about the the reflection problem soon. I didn't realize quite how bad it was. The filter set up is evident here as well, and I must say, I like it better then any other filter I've had to use. Seriously, everyone should just make their own filters.( Well, perhaps on ten gallons anyway) You'll notice it's not sitting quite right. I've got to weight the bottom more, but lacking in gravel.( Which I'm sure people have noticed XD I just need to add another layer of gravel on top of the old one,mostly to control this bloody sand. Yes, it's play sand, poor choice.) The only trouble I had was a very mild, but irritating sound, coming from the exhaust tube(aka the tube not connecting to the air pump via tubing). I also realized that it would also do little by way of aeration if I didn't diffuse the bubbles that came out very large and quickly. Hence that black piece of sponge on there,connected with a rubber band. It solved all the troubles very easily- and is part of the old filter.

3rd Image: Other sword plant, you can clearly see it's sickly runner that has one wee plant on it. The little plants has healthy roots but no real leaves, I'm leaving it on to see what will happen. To the left the other not-so happy Java fern I'm hoping will attach to gravel. In the fore ground your able to see both of the wee sword plants I clipped from mama plant, they are the happiest things in the tank. Now, looking to the right again upon the rocks, two more Java ferns lay. These rough rocks should provide good holds for the ferns, and though they are the small and possibly the worse off, I'm hoping these little ones make it. They are tied down gently with some string.

There we have it! Questions/comments/suggestions welcome. And another thank you to everyone who helped me keep a level head about this,and get the tank back up and running!
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:51 AM   #22
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1st Image: So! Here we are with the tank all set up, the light fixtures are a bit unorthodox, but they are working so that's the important part! Each is running a 25 watt bulb, for a total of 50 watts. I know the 'watts per gallon' rule is a bit outdated, but it's still a decent rule of thumb. Anyway, in case no one wants to do the math, this 10 gallon tank is now running 5 watts per gallon. I know that's a bit high for the plants I have, but we'll just have to manage. XD The lights are going to be running about 9-10 hrs a day. You can also see the water has cleared up fairly well, and the filter/ light timer can be seen off to the left side there. I'm fairly certain the water issue is caused by bacteria,so only time can really solve it.
I think that you might find a shorter photo period a better plan here due to the over driven lighting... your plants may suffer so a good countermeasure would be to get some good covering floating plants. I did that when I tripled my light intensity recently and it worked very well. In my case I grew out a bunch of pennywort, duckweed and assorted stems into a floating mass before adding the light. The hanging roots are favourite hangouts for all my fish, even the little pepper corys.

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...I just need to add another layer of gravel on top of the old one,mostly to control this bloody sand. Yes, it's play sand, poor choice.) .
The substrate will end up mixing up over time, the gravel settles into the sand. I am curious though, why do you consider sand a poor choice? I use it in two tanks now and I would NEVER go to gravel... for tons of reasons. I think that people who don't like sand are few and far between unless they didn't clean it first or just never actually used it... cleaning is the usual issue but even that settles out over time as the larger particles come to the surface and the silty part ends up on the bottom. Just don't stir it up.
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It's looking good anyway.

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Old 06-28-2013, 09:41 PM   #23
 
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I completely agree with the light bit, I've turned it down to a shorter period now :) I'm looking into floating plants, but the LPS is oddly lacking. I may have to do some online ordering.

I did clean the play sand thoroughly, and I don't have anything really against sand at all despite the play sand it not being the most recommended suggestion.(I mean inregards to pool sand,for example) My complaint is when it kicks up that bit, it drives me a little batty in the settling time. Otherwise I like it just fine!

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Old 06-29-2013, 01:31 AM   #24
 
So sad that you lost a friend, and some fish. Reminds me of the time when 95% of my aquarium water siphoned out by itself when the tubing disconnected itself from one of the air pumps. All fish survived that where in the free swimming section, but I lost my best reproducing mother. She died because the breeder box wasn't in the water when I found it, but she died next to her babies, which was kinda strange because all the babies survived but she didn't.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:52 AM   #25
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I use play sand (too kinds in two tanks, one really dirty and one not so dirty) and I sometimes will take handfuls of sand from one area and drop it in other areas... usually when moving or planting to give the roots more coverage or just to increase levels in low spots. I have zero residual cloudiness... it literally drops to the sand bottom and stays put. It's all in the cleaning initially and if that wasn't thorough enough then not digging to the bottom of the substrate layer to stir up the finer silty parts.

I also don't vacuum anymore as the detritus sits on top and decomposes very quickly, the snails help, so I have only ever seen fish poop once as it happened to be on a driftwood piece. Usually you don't have to actually clean the sand other than surface skimming with the vac.

For me, it's just hands down better than gravel... as for playsand vs pool filter sand, it just looks more natural.

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Old 06-29-2013, 03:23 PM   #26
 
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Ah yes, I see! I must of confused myself when I intially planted them in the tank. I had them in loose gravel, but i don't think it was loose enough. This may explain some of the issues I had before the incident! I will be trying what this fellow is suggesting though,to see what happens.
How to Plant Java Fern & Anubias - YouTube

Update on tank status:

I have a filter! Thanks to the information provided by Jackie, and others in the fish chat, I was able to do a cost effective setup in my tank. Though I didn't follow he method in the previously linked tutorial exactly, because I would've run over budget to get some of the media needed. I picked up a 'Marina bottom filter" casing (On sale, three dollars! Woo! I didn't really have anything to start drilling holes in water bottles. Or a water bottle...Shared house, but no one buys cases of water or the plastic pop bottles) , some tubing and the marina 50 air pump to set up. I then ripped apart some old filter cartridges, popped in the carbon and the poly fill they were made of, and viola! A filter! And you know what? I LIKE THIS ONE BETTER. I suggest it to anyone that is looking to make an effective filter, for a low cost. I even suggest the pump for anyone that needs one. It's a good,quiet pump that does it's job well. Granted, you could follow the instructions found in the tutorial because that'll be just as effective, but this casing seems to do the trick to. I only set it up a little while ago, so we'll have to wait and see how things go.

My water is still murky, bleck. I'll be doing another water change in a little while ( Did a 15-20% eariliar)

The fish is still here. I named him( I think it's a boy anyway) "Cooper". Or Cooper-Trooper. Little solider he is. I tried to bring him back, but upon calling ahead the LPS wouldn't take him. I'm sort of stuck now, I do not want to get any more fish, but I also don't like that this very social little guy is alone. Suggestions welcome!

I'm about to do some replanting, the Java ferns need it and I think the swords will benefit in the end. Going to plant th two teeny swords plants today as well and get them started, there is no sense in having them continue to feed off the mother plant with how big they have gotten.
sounds like your making progress, keep up the good work, you little guy will be fine till you can buy a few more of them to keep him company
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