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DO NOT BOIL ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 07-25-2011, 10:03 AM   #91
 
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Tell your theory to those street crews here that are repairing buckled concrete and blowups due to recent record temps and moisture trapped either below or in concrete due to recent record flooding.
Or if you wish,,try placing a closed can of soup in boiling pot of water and leave it.Let us know how that works out for ya.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:11 AM   #92
 
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Tell your theory to those street crews here that are repairing buckled concrete and blowups due to recent record temps and moisture trapped either below or in concrete due to recent record flooding.
So now you're comparing a rock in boiling water to sink holes and erosion due to flooding? Like rocks in FIRE and your boiler example, again you're comparing apples to oranges. The heat waves we've seen do not cause water to vaporize with explosive force - I'm not sure what you're thinking here my friend.

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Or if you wish,,try placing a closed can of soup in boiling pot of water and leave it.Let us know how that works out for ya.
It's been done, over and over in Junior high school science classes (just like snuffing out a match by a quick dip in gasoline!). There has never been a reported case of rock explosions in an open pot of boiling water. If you can find one, I'd appreciate a link - in a pot of water now, not a fire.

Lets just agree to disagree.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:18 AM   #93
 
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So now you're comparing a rock in boiling water to sink holes and erosion due to flooding? Like rocks in FIRE and your boiler example, again you're comparing apples to oranges. The heat waves we've seen do not cause water to vaporize with explosive force - I'm not sure what you're thinking here my friend.

It's been done, over and over in Junior high school science classes (just like snuffing out a match by a quick dip in gasoline!). There has never been a reported case of rock explosions in an open pot of boiling water. If you can find one, I'd appreciate a link - in a pot of water now, not a fire.

Lets just agree to disagree.

My apologie's for not making understandable my thought's.
Yes,,we have sink holes and erosion of road way's close to the river where erosion has eaten away the sub base under those roads close to the river.
The heaving up of concrete and" blow up's" of same however is in my view different, and report's of this are along interstate's and city streets far removed from the low lying areas closer to the river.Street superintendent's and contractor's here and in Iowa and Oklahoma, are attributing this to moisture trapped under these areas and extreme heat and humidity.
Googling" concrete blow up's" should produce some report's of this.
I do not know whether this is a valid explanation and will leave this to Expert's either real ,,or self professed.
As stated before,, I am not certain as to what result's or danger could exist from boiling rocks but my theory is that perhaps rather than rocks exploding,that water is superheated and what is happening is sometimes called "bumping" or" Bumping boiling" .
I have seen this firsthand while heating medication "Metronidozle " which is said to be more effective at higher temps due to it being primarily used for human use and warmer body temps.
I was bringing it to a boil in microwave and condition described as "superheating occured". The mixture of water and medication, quickly began to boil and then after a couple minutes boiling ceased, and I presumed the medication which is not easily soluable in cool water was liquified.
The moment I placed a plastic spoon into the cup of liquid to give it a stir,,a violent explosion of this concoction occured for I did not let the solution cool before attempting to stir it.
Have heard of other's who have expierienced similar result's with heating cups of coffee or tea in ceramic mugs in the microwave often times resulting in nasty burns.
Perhaps rather than rock's exploding,, this "superheating" is what has happened leading some to believe the rocks have exploded or fractured, (makes more sense to me).
In any event,,as stated before I think there are much safer alternatives for preparing or sterilizing stones for use in the aquarium and would not reccomend boiling them.
Again my apologies for not being able to articulate my thought's in a manner that was more easily absorbed.
I suffer from a mild form of ADD and with meds I am sometimes able to keep up with my thought's .Other times,,usually later in the day,, these thought's are hard to corral and place them in the order I would like.
For those interested.. One can google "Superheating liquids"," Chemical reaction Bumping", or Google ..use of boiling chips and Boiling stones which I understand are sometimes used to prevent superheating condition while boiling various liquids.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:58 AM   #94
 
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My apologie's for not making understandable my thought's.
Yes,,we have sink holes and erosion of road way's close to the river where erosion has eaten away the sub base under those roads close to the river.
The heaving up of concrete and" blow up's" of same however is in my view different, and report's of this are along interstate's and city streets far removed from the low lying areas closer to the river.Street superintendent's and contractor's here and in Iowa and Oklahoma, are attributing this to moisture trapped under these areas and extreme heat and humidity.
Googling" concrete blow up's" should produce some report's of this.
I do not know whether this is a valid explanation and will leave this to Expert's either real ,,or self professed.
As stated before,, I am not certain as to what result's or danger could exist from boiling rocks but my theory is that perhaps rather than rocks exploding,that water is superheated and what is happening is sometimes called "bumping" or" Bumping boiling" .
I have seen this firsthand while heating medication "Metronidozle " which is said to be more effective at higher temps due to it being primarily used for human use and warmer body temps.
I was bringing it to a boil in microwave and condition described as "superheating occured". The mixture of water and medication, quickly began to boil and then after a couple minutes boiling ceased, and I presumed the medication which is not easily soluable in cool water was liquified.
The moment I placed a plastic spoon into the cup of liquid to give it a stir,,a violent explosion of this concoction occured for I did not let the solution cool before attempting to stir it.
Have heard of other's who have expierienced similar result's with heating cups of coffee or tea in ceramic mugs in the microwave often times resulting in nasty burns.
Perhaps rather than rock's exploding,, this "superheating" is what has happened leading some to believe the rocks have exploded or fractured, (makes more sense to me).
In any event,,as stated before I think there are much safer alternatives for preparing or sterilizing stones for use in the aquarium and would not reccomend boiling them.
Again my apologies for not being able to articulate my thought's in a manner that was more easily absorbed.
I suffer from a mild form of ADD and with meds I am sometimes able to keep up with my thought's .Other times,,usually later in the day,, these thought's are hard to corral and place them in the order I would like.
For those interested.. One can google "Superheating liquids"," Chemical reaction Bumping", or Google ..use of boiling chips and Boiling stones which I understand are sometimes used to prevent superheating condition while boiling various liquids.
First let me say that I'm sorry for your minor affliction my friend - life hands us bumps and grinds along the way and we just have to deal with them as best as we can.
Here again we can't really compare super heating in a microwave to an open pot of boiling water - we weren't talking about rocks in the microwave - by the way, if anyone is reading, a can of soup in the microwave is an especially bad idea too!
Lets just leave it that even though the odds are likely that boiling rocks isn't going to cause an explosion, there are ways to clean/sterilize that don't require such measures...and for petes sake, don't put rock in the microwave!
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:14 AM   #95
 
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First let me say that I'm sorry for your minor affliction my friend - life hands us bumps and grinds along the way and we just have to deal with them as best as we can.
Here again we can't really compare super heating in a microwave to an open pot of boiling water - we weren't talking about rocks in the microwave - by the way, if anyone is reading, a can of soup in the microwave is an especially bad idea too!
Lets just leave it that even though the odds are likely that boiling rocks isn't going to cause an explosion, there are ways to clean/sterilize that don't require such measures...and for petes sake, don't put rock in the microwave!
Thanks for the kind words.
After some reading, "Bumping" as it is called and or superheating can occur and does with some frequency(usually in lab test's with test tubes) while boiling water whether it be in microwave,over a hot plate,over flame,and or water that is heated with electrical probes according to those scientist's that study such things.Scientist's (according to papers submitted), have been studying this since the early 1900's in an effort to understand this and have used the above methods of bringing the water to a boil in laboratory test's.
I agree that in open pot of water, where rocks are slowly brought to a boil, that there might not be pause for concern, but we don't know what type of container is to be used by those who would try this or,, how old the person performing this might be,whether the container would or would not be covered, whether the stones or rocks are holding moisture or not , what temp's are applied, or how and when rocks /stones are added to boiling pot of water (very dangerous to place anything in already boiling liquid).
These are reason's I took note of your willingness to poo poo the possible danger's from the outset and describe the warning's as myth while assuming variables unknown to you or I.
Now that this particular horse has been flogged sufficiently (my view,) I will happily agreee that safer /easier way's of preparing rocks/stones for use in the aquarium Exist .
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Old 08-27-2011, 03:51 AM   #96
 
i have heard of people using salt water as a disinfectant sorta
to remove the ich thing from aquarium decorations then
cleaning them again with fresh water
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:10 PM   #97
 
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For my rocks I just run them under hot water - not boiling, but just under hot tap water for a few minutes. Seems to work pretty well.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:10 AM   #98
 
This is good to know... Thanks!!!
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:26 PM   #99
 
Just run your rocks through a dishwasher (bottom rack) set to high temperature/air dry with 2 cups of white vinegar (no soap!). Rocks will come out almost too hot to handle. Works great. This technique also works great to thoroughly clean any/all plastic decor (top rack of course).

Note1: Some folks worry that there could be residual soap in a dishwasher. However, my dishwasher has always rinsed dishes clean with no residual soap and I suspect yours will too.

Note2: I have run rocks/decor through my dishwasher several times with only positive results.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:38 AM   #100
 
Wow. Never knew that could happen. Luckily I've never tried boiling the rock. Usually what I would do is wash it with clean water thoroughly and then placed it submerged in a bucket of water for at least week before putting it in the tank. Never have problem with that.
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