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post #1 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 12:40 AM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Do I have to change the water to clear up the playsand cloud?

I just set up a 55 gallon using playsand. I guess it didn't get rinsed well enough, because now the tank is thick, cloudy brown. Normally water changes don't phase me, but I just filled it with RO water! Will it settle, or do I have to waste the water?

BTW, fishless cycling. No plants yet. Literally just filled it.
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post #2 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 01:30 AM
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I could be off on this since even a year later, I'm pretty new...But I thought I read somewhere to leave the filter off and let it settle.
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post #3 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 04:36 AM
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What I suggest is let it filter, but either add fine filter wool to the filter, and change it every 3 days, and/or do a gravel clean, but using sand I'm not sure, but the filter will eventually clean it you could try using Geoliquid will assist with that as it collects the dust together electrostatically and when heavy enough will fall and hopefully get sucked up by filter

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post #4 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 05:31 AM
what kind of filter are you using? sound like a hob or over the top type.the like to stir the sand up.try using a rain spray bar when you do a wc.it doesn't disrupt the sand as much as a normal hose

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post #5 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 07:12 AM
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If it's a dark muddy color ... yes water change is needed.

If it's a haze you can easily see though ... it might settle out some, but water changes over time will clear it out. Don't have the filter running if you want to try and let it settle. Sand in a filter is bad business, it can get caught in the impeller and damage it.

How many times did you rinse it? I just cleaned 175 pounds for a 125 gallon. I would put a small amount (maybe a quarter of a bag) in a bucket and would spray it hard with the hose about 15 times. I'd spray it hard enough that all of the sand is disturbed and billowing around in the bucket. Enough that if you put your hand in you can feel all the sand in the water rushing around.

Even with all that there is a slight haze, but not enough to worry about.

When filling, you want to use a bowl or plate to deflect the water from blowing the sand around.

A HOB will not disturb the sand unless you have it running while the tank is low on water.
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post #6 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 08:51 AM
I wouldn't use chemicals to clear sandy water. I also think I would put very fine polyester filter fiber in the filter and see what it looks like after 24 hours or so.
In this case, because of the RO water, a water change is a last resort, but may be necessary if the filter and time doesn't cause it to clear up.
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post #7 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 09:05 AM
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First of all, can I ask why your are using RO water and not tap water?

Agree on if the water is dirty colored, then perform water changes, if it is white but cloudy then overtime it will settle down, it can take up to a week..as you are fishless cycling, I would not be too concerned about it.

Adding filter floss to your filter will help some, it is cheap and you just throw it away after use..check your filter to make sure there is not a large accumulation of sand in it, if there is, remove the media to the tank and wash the filter out..sand can very quickly ruin an impeller / filter permanently if left in for too long.

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post #8 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 09:45 AM Thread Starter
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It looks like a mud puddle. I only rinsed it once, and all at once. I should have known better. Crud.

Tazman, my tap is around 7.6-7.8 ph. I would like to have some angelfish, and I know they need a lower ph. I've tried tannins from driftwood, boiled driftwood water, and peat moss. None lowered the ph, so RO is my only choice. I'm worried about collecting rainwater since we have a zinc factory (...something like that mined out of the ground and processed).
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7.6-7.8 is not unsuitable for tank bred angelfish, only live caught.

As a tank establishes, the pH will likely lower some anyways, depending on how high your KH is.

If you have rather hard water (high GH) than perhaps a mixture of tap and RO water is in order, but not pure RO.

Do you know your GH and KH?
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post #10 of 17 Old 04-24-2012, 10:10 AM
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Ok, sounds good about using the RO water.

With regards to the water being cloudy, If the suggested methods do not work for you, then the only real option would be start over I know that will be a hassle but is a lot easier doing it without fish than with fish in the tank.
It may take sometime but I am fairly confident it will settle down.

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