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Old 03-31-2013, 05:33 PM   #11
 
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just curious why does it have to be bullet proof, going to cost you a arm and a leg at that thickness
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Old 03-31-2013, 05:55 PM   #12
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just curious why does it have to be bullet proof, going to cost you a arm and a leg at that thickness
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:34 PM   #13
 
Really !!
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Old 03-31-2013, 06:42 PM   #14
 
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wow get off it, just a question nvm i guess
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:03 PM   #15
 
Hey its a good joke don't get mad I thought I was funny! I hope you know what I mean when I said( bullet proof) problem free.
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:06 PM   #16
 
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goes to show how much is lost in transaltion from text
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:12 PM   #17
 
yup. I have had many fish tanks before and never really had the money to set them up right so i'm going all out this time and i'm looking for suggestions on what the best of the best equipment is for fresh water and how to plumb it to avoid disaster
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Old 04-01-2013, 01:06 PM   #18
 
Okay big tank, visible from all sides. Drilled in center for an overflow (presumably a stand pipe) and another drilled hole for the return. These would lead to/from a sump which might be a 90g tank. I agree that a sump in the basement can be done, but will require a more powerful pump for the return as well as more plumbing. But it's not a bad way to go!
Sump setups can vary quite a bit and don't have to be in an aquarium. Commercial sumps with various compartments seem somewhat over done and expensive to me.
Basically you can have mechanical media in a drip tray or 'socks' to collect particulate matter. From there, you might have wet/dry followed by other bio-media. You could have a refugium with plants and lights. Heaters could be in the sump and that's where you'd do water changes....Or add some more plumbing and you could setup a fresh water drip and overflow in the sump to automate water changes.
Now here's a twist...with it in the basement, the 'sump' could be nothing more than a 55g drum or other open holding tank with a return pump, that has heaters and uses a canister or diatom filter to filter the water.
There are some pretty inventive DIY aquarium sump setups out thereand you'd find a search on youtube very enlightening.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:04 PM   #19
 
Well I think I've decided to go with sump in basement. What's your take on bio balls vs other media. Read a lot of bad press about bio balls getting clogged. Seems to me if you have good mech filter before them they should be fine. Doesn't the ceramic stuff get clogged to. And is a refugium hard to keep up and are they better than wet dry
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Well I think I've decided to go with sump in basement. What's your take on bio balls vs other media. Read a lot of bad press about bio balls getting clogged. Seems to me if you have good mech filter before them they should be fine. Doesn't the ceramic stuff get clogged to. And is a refugium hard to keep up and are they better than wet dry
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I don't have a sump, but I've done a lot of research. Bio-balls are okay for wet/dry, but I think I'd go with nylon pot scrubbers (from the dollar store)
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just as much or more surface area and a zillion dollars cheaper. In a refugium, you can grow plants in deep sand and/or setup an algae scrubber...but if I was doing one, I think I'd have plants in the tank load up the sump with Seachem Matrix or a mix of Matrix and De*Nitrate....or maybe even pond Matrix. But you could also use one of the ceramic (like bio-max) bio-medias. There are just so many different ways to setup a sump and there are almost no wrong ways to do it. The key to making sure it's most effective is making sure the water flows through your media.

Another thing that comes to mind, especially with a setup in the basement and a powerful pump, you'll want to make sure you have a bypass on the return line for flow control and size or oversize your lines appropriately.
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