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post #11 of 18 Old 03-01-2011, 01:27 AM
You wanna know how fun it is planting stems around both my 2 foot eels?

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post #12 of 18 Old 03-01-2011, 08:56 AM
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You wanna know how fun it is planting stems around both my 2 foot eels?
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post #13 of 18 Old 03-01-2011, 03:41 PM Thread Starter
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Note- Even the smallest snails will turn up plants ..especially if they aren't established..

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I kind of thought they might be the guilty parties too but thought myself nuts. It is easier for me to blame them regardless as I am not a fan of those darn things. My Assassin and Mystery snails I like but the ramshorns, not so much.
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as i remove my hand from the area, my oversized baseball glove hands pull them right back up...

Same issue here. I guess I am not delicate enough for such work.
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I also manage to get them tangled in my hands and pull them up. One of my sponge-things-on-a-handle-for-cleaning-the-tank-walls has a little fork thing on the end for planting. I can sometimes manage to use that to push the plants in and not manage to uproot them straight away.
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post #15 of 18 Old 03-02-2011, 06:46 PM Thread Starter
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The other issue for me is getting them straight. I just got done putting them back into the substrate again. I took great pains to put them in just a few stems at a time so they would get light all the way down to the roots. Well, When I finished I stood in front of the tank to look at a job well done and I see that they all lean the same way (back toward the back of the tank) Ugh! Slo my tank is currently unbalanced but I can't for the life of me figure out what I should do to fix it. Right now, It looks like someone just dropped the plants all in and let them land where they may. :)

I took out some of the wood too as it just seemed like too much wood and not enough plants. At the rate I am going soon I will have all Sword plants in my tank. At least the fish cannot uproot them so easily.
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The other issue for me is getting them straight. I just got done putting them back into the substrate again. I took great pains to put them in just a few stems at a time so they would get light all the way down to the roots. Well, When I finished I stood in front of the tank to look at a job well done and I see that they all lean the same way (back toward the back of the tank) Ugh! Slo my tank is currently unbalanced but I can't for the life of me figure out what I should do to fix it. Right now, It looks like someone just dropped the plants all in and let them land where they may. :)

I took out some of the wood too as it just seemed like too much wood and not enough plants. At the rate I am going soon I will have all Sword plants in my tank. At least the fish cannot uproot them so easily.
Not that you'd want to do this but here's something I do for stem plants that works great. I have a 6gl tank that has very find sand in it for substrate. The sand is so fine it's a piece of cake to push the stems in and they stay. This little tank is well lit and I put my stem plants in it and in about a week's time to 10 days they have good roots growing on them, I uproot them and than replant in my bigger tanks. It's my little 6gl propagation tank. I keep my RCS in this tank. I also put all my cuttings from the big tanks into this tank and once they have roots then it's back to the big tanks.
Just what you need, another tank, lol. But at 6gl it's super easy to take care of. Just a thought.

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post #17 of 18 Old 03-03-2011, 03:00 AM
better lighting?

I honestly don't have this problem. Sure a couple stems get knocked loose every week in the eel tank, but there is close to 2 dozen stems in there. Snails certainly don't uproot stems, I have snails in all my tanks and stems generally don't get uprooted. I think I run higher lighting then most, which may be why I don't have this problem. My stems normally need to be pruned every week this involves uprooting them chopping off the bottoms then replanting the tops. They will root in about 4 days.

Plants angel themselves towards the light. When I trim my tanks they always look very sloppy right afterwards because the stems point in all different directions. Within 24 hours the plants will readjust so they are facing the light. If your plants are always leaning to the back of the tank, I'm guessing that your light is mounted on the back half. Either add more or move it so it is placed over the middle of the tank.

Stems root like crazy in soil tanks. Hygro is impossible to uproot in soil. When I am trimming I usually grab the base of the plant and pull till the roots break. Never have that problem in the regular gravel tanks.

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post #18 of 18 Old 03-05-2011, 10:31 AM Thread Starter
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Yes, my lighting is over the back half of the tank with the opening on the top in front so you can access the tank. I think the biggest problem is the Tiger Barbs and the races that occur through the freshly planted stems. They have even ripped a few of the leaves on the larger swords with their antics. They will be out of there soon. I am also certain that the fact that I do not purne my plants often enough is an issue. Things get a bit unkempt looking from the pruning perspective. Truth is, I am not sure how much or how little needs to be pruned so I avoid it.

I did just remove a bit of mess looking stuff t his morning and it looks a bit better. I hate being armpit deep in fish water too so... It just doesn't get done often enough. :( Wish I could afford to hire a knowledgeable person to work in the tank for awhile to see what they do.

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