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Darn Stem Plants! How do you keep them in the substrate?
Old 02-27-2011, 07:45 PM   #1
 
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Darn Stem Plants! How do you keep them in the substrate?

Well just like the title says... How do you keep the darn things planted? I get them planted, they look great and then a few days later they start to be uprooted and float on the top. I then replant and they wait the few days before popping out again. After uprooting and replanting enough, the roots are generally shot and the whole works needs to get tossed out. What am I doing wrong???
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Old 02-27-2011, 07:52 PM   #2
 
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well you could possibly have an animal in the aquarium thats uprooting them like a large fish or something that borrows like a Khuli loach or something like that....

if thats not it then honestly thats just something that stem plant groweres eventually learn how to handle them! Most of my plants are stem plants in a sand substrate and its very difficult (since they dont have roots yet and im working with rotala indica (very very very thin stems)). anywho... its just something you eventually learn how to handle, if you can get the plant to stay in llong enough until it grows some roots then the plant should be ok on its own.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:06 PM   #3
 
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When I put my plants in, I added more gravel. That seemed to hold them down, but it only lasts until I stick the gravel vac in and up they come. I'm going to replace some of mine with another sword.
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Old 02-27-2011, 08:20 PM   #4
 
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I pick up some of the substrate and drop it on top of the plant. It seems to weigh the plant down a bit as the grains fall in between the stems.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:59 PM   #5
 
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well you could possibly have an animal in the aquarium thats uprooting them like a large fish or something that borrows like a Khuli loach or something like that....

if thats not it then honestly thats just something that stem plant groweres eventually learn how to handle them! Most of my plants are stem plants in a sand substrate and its very difficult (since they dont have roots yet and im working with rotala indica (very very very thin stems)). anywho... its just something you eventually learn how to handle, if you can get the plant to stay in llong enough until it grows some roots then the plant should be ok on its own.

I used to have Rotala as well. I had to finally get rid of it or I would have become a drinker from the stress of each morning having to replant it. I don't know if My Rainbow shark does it or the Corie's maybe? I don't know but it is a lesson in frustration. I fear that I am doomed to a tank full of swords, Java Moss, Java ferns etc...

I am coming to the conclusion that my green thumb... not so green.

I LOVE plants and I love how they look once I have them all just so but apparently my fish have other decorating ideas. Kind of like my dogs and my outdoor plants. I finally just gave them the backyard and claimed the front yard for myself. If you can't beat them, join them kind of thing. I might struggle for awhile longer just because I love the look of so many of the stem plants.

Maybe I should just start a plant tank and skip the fish altogether?
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:15 PM   #6
 
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I LOVE plants and I love how they look once I have them all just so but apparently my fish have other decorating ideas. Kind of like my dogs and my outdoor plants. I finally just gave them the backyard and claimed the front yard for myself. If you can't beat them, join them kind of thing.
Inga, I had to laugh when I read this. My front yard lawn looks like a putting green. My backyard looks like a football field after a game has been played on it during a rain storm. My dogs don't share the same idea of me as far as how to keep a lawn looking nice. The front lawn is mine, the back lawn is theirs. I gave up on the back lawn long ago. Now it's just a mess of weeds that I mow weekly.
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Old 02-28-2011, 03:28 PM   #7
 
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LOL We have a lot of similarities don't we Kymmie? :) Last year, I would have died of embarrassment had anyone seen my back yard. The weeds got so out of hand along the fence line it looked like a jungle. I have one dog that thinks we need an in-ground pool and insists on taking the excavating into his own paws. The worst part is he hasn't settled on a spot and has tried a few options out there.

I broke down and bought him a small pool of his own and now he doesn't excavate anymore. Now he just digs out the landscaping fabric a few yards at a time and brings it to me. :(

At the end of the day when I am laying in bed or eating or whatever, the most important thing to me is my dogs, not my yard. I can't say my front yard is anything special either but it doesn't have holes in it and the weeds are kept a bit more under control. :)
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Old 02-28-2011, 04:31 PM   #8
 
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practice makes improvement :D. I know you can do it! Its possible the shark is the culprit but what you COULD do is... leave the stem floating until it grows roots... or set up another bare tank until the plant grows roots...
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Old 02-28-2011, 04:43 PM   #9
 
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Everyone has this prob. The key is doing it right the first time then being patient to give it time to get establish before your critters get at it. With super fine stems like Dwarf baby tears you really have to bury it in bulk and let it spread or tweezer in a couple sprouts at a time but you need really fine substrate otherwise it won't be held in place. Another guy recommended that I sewed it to some mesh one stem at a time..sounds crazy but it may be worth it if you have to go through all the frustrations of it floating back up. Of course you need to find out if your inhabitants like to rearrange the tank to there taste if so I think it is a losing battle. Another thing to watch for is the current flowing through the tank..if your water gets low (depending on your filter) the water fall will dig up where ever its landing and will make a mess..

Note- Even the smallest snails will turn up plants ..especially if they aren't established..

Good Luck!
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:27 PM   #10
 
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ah yes! i also heard that some use foreceps and tweezers to put the new stems in the substrate. i main problem is when i put the stems in the substrate, as i remove my hand from the area, my oversized baseball glove hands pull them right back up...
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