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post #1 of 28 Old 03-26-2012, 04:32 PM Thread Starter
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Cycling question

i just got a 10 gallon tank and i already have a 20 gallon thats cycled i read that i can use filter media from cycled tanks to cycle my 10 gallon my question is do i just take out the insert from my filter and put it in the small one? it doesn't really fit and if i did find a way how long do i leave it there? what about my existing 20 gallon will it be okay without the bacteria for a while?

also theres something called bio spira and what are your thoughts about that? can i find it at petland?
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post #2 of 28 Old 03-26-2012, 05:53 PM Thread Starter
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wait a second cant i just put the filter bag from the 10 gallon into my 20 gallon cycled tank for 24 hours and will it get enough bacteria from it to start the cycle? should i get a cycling fish?
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wait a second cant i just put the filter bag from the 10 gallon into my 20 gallon cycled tank for 24 hours and will it get enough bacteria from it to start the cycle? should i get a cycling fish?
Best way to cycle your tank:

1) Get plants
2) Get gravel from your already established tank - some people do bring over the filter...but then your other tank doesnt have one...)

3) add ammonia.


If you add a fish to your tank, it is not going to be good for that fish. If you so willingly choose to do so, I would get A LOT of plants.

The best thing for your fish is to cycle the tank before they come into it.

I would read this before going through with anything: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/
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im gonna do the The "Fishless Cycle" Using Pure Ammonia since plants are currently not an option for me.
gonna head over to petland and get some pure ammonia now to my knowledge it takes 3 weeks for the ammonia to turn into nitrite then another 3 weeks for nitrite to convert to nitrates since i have a cycled 20 gallon at some point i will transfer the filter media from the uncycled 10 gallon to the 20 gallon for 24 horus to speed it up a bit.
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im gonna do the The "Fishless Cycle" Using Pure Ammonia since plants are currently not an option for me.
gonna head over to petland and get some pure ammonia now to my knowledge it takes 3 weeks for the ammonia to turn into nitrite then another 3 weeks for nitrite to convert to nitrates since i have a cycled 20 gallon at some point i will transfer the filter media from the uncycled 10 gallon to the 20 gallon for 24 horus to speed it up a bit.
That sounds about right.

If you bring in the media from the cycled tank it could cut that time in half.

Why can't you get plants?
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i don't have good lights and i cant really afford any right now with the bill and all, i would need 40w for my 20 gal and 20w for my 10 gal and the c02 system, im gonna wait until the summer ill be working again then i can afford more things like that.

i had some cabombas they were nice and they grew but i moved the tank around a lot and did a lot of water changes so that pretty much killed it. currently my light has 10,000k 15W in my 20 gal i did use a c02 booster when i had cabombas.
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i don't have good lights and i cant really afford any right now with the bill and all, i would need 40w for my 20 gal and 20w for my 10 gal and the c02 system, im gonna wait until the summer ill be working again then i can afford more things like that.

i had some cabombas they were nice and they grew but i moved the tank around a lot and did a lot of water changes so that pretty much killed it. currently my light has 10,000k 15W in my 20 gal i did use a c02 booster when i had cabombas.
With that light in your 20 gallon you can have Java Fern, Java Moss AND hornwort. They are all low light plants.

You have a more powerful light for your 20 gallon than I do. I have never used C02 and all my plants (excluding my sword...which is just troublesome) are fine. I use Flourish Comprehensive by Seachem once a week. $15 a big bottle.

I use Seachem Prime Water conditioner when water changing too - $9 a big bottle.
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wow really? thats good to know i didn't know that :) . ill pick up some plants too when everythings ready in the tank im sure my bolivian rams will love it.
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wow really? thats good to know i didn't know that :) . ill pick up some plants too when everythings ready in the tank im sure my bolivian rams will love it.
yea absolutely!

The Java Fern in my 29 is running on a 20 watt 6500K bulb and it is GROWING....it even has babies hahah. There is about 20 little ferns growing off of it.

I keep the water clean and use the flourish (the flourish I have noticed has helped the growth).
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Leave some not all the media in the tank for the duration of the cycle. The bacteria take time to transfer, it will drastically help though in the cycling.

With the pure ammonia you want to dose it to a high level, 2-3ppm for a 20g tank. Keep the dose constant until you start seeing the nitrite spike. Once you see the nitrite spike and it will be big and quick using established media, cut the dose down to 1ppm, once the nitrates appear. HOLD OUT doing a water change, dose the tank again with ammonia to 2-3ppm or whatever your initial dose was. Your tank is fully cycled once the initial dose of ammonia is converted in 24 hours. Once you notice this, perform a massive 50-70% water change to reduce the nitrates, hey presto, your cycled.

Using the fishless cycle with ammonia, will allow you to FULLY stock the tank immediately once the cycle is complete.

PLEASE PLEASE be patient and while you are waiting for the cycle to complete, research as much as you can about the fish you intend on keeping. That way you can provide a suitable environment for them, before actually adding them to the tank.

If you require any further assistance, then please do not hesitate to post.

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