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post #1 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 12:50 PM Thread Starter
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Cycling a new fresh tank with mature media?

Yesterday set-up a new 10 gallon tank for the overload of Guppy and Swordtail fry I'am getting! I have 2 tanks already fully mature, and I took 1 of the sponge filters out of my 25 gallon and added if to the new tanks filter. Will I still need to cycle this tank before adding a few fish? All I have in the new tank right now is a few live plants.
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post #2 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 01:12 PM
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That's all I do - move media for an instant cycle.

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post #3 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 01:21 PM
No you won't need to cycle, but you do need to add fish quickly. You moved bacteria to the new tank but currently they have no food source since there are no fish present.

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post #4 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 01:24 PM
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It takes the bacteria a long time to starve to death. Besides, there is plenty of food for the bacteria in the filter media to sustain the colony until it is stocked.

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post #5 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 01:37 PM
Yes, but in my experience its best to keep the media active. They can survive a few days without food but its best to avoid that. Typically when I clone a tank I stock it with fish, then move mature media to it 4-12 hours later.

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post #6 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 01:45 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the help, I just added a few guppys to the new tank. I guess I should still watch my ammonia and nitrite levels?
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post #7 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 02:07 PM
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Thanks for the help, I just added a few guppys to the new tank. I guess I should still watch my ammonia and nitrite levels?
yeah. but generally media is colonized proportional to bioload, unless you have a fancy filter. If you removed 1/3 the media from the donor tank the new 'cloned' tank can handle about 1/3 the bioload that was in the donor tank. Cloning takes a bit more hands on experience, too many fish too soon in the new tank will give you a mini-cycle. Its more judging how much waste one fish produces compared to another.

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post #8 of 8 Old 08-19-2012, 05:00 PM
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IME the bacteria can survive on the waste breaking down in the filter for weeks, not days. My only point is that there is no RUSH. In a situation where you are moving a filter over, there's no need to move it before there are fish in the tank. However, in the case of a permanent filter on a variably stoked tank, like a quarantine tank, one should not feel pressure to get a new fish in the tank immediately.

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