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Cycling with Feeder Guppies
Old 08-14-2008, 09:43 PM   #11
 
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Aw, I meant just use them as feeders when you're done cycling. I don't keep any fish that eat feeders, but my friends always buy zebras for feeders instead of icky diseased feeders.
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:00 PM   #12
 
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See...I just couldn't bring myself to do that. Especially because the stand that's holding the 29g (and will eventually hold the 10g guppy tank and probably my 20 long as well) is *right* across from the 20g that has the danios in it. I couldn't bear to be like, "see...now I'm going to feed your cousins to my hungry, mean ol' Jack Dempsey. Act up and it's you next!" Plus, danios are easy to breed but still more difficult than guppies by a long shot. For example, in the middle of writing this post I just pulled some fry out of my fancy guppy tank and fed them to my killies .
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:02 PM   #13
 
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Hehe- I guess I'm just mean. I'm thinking of converting my community tank to a pike tank as we speak. And I'm gonna get more lorteti puffers :)
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Old 08-14-2008, 10:25 PM   #14
 
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What sort of pike? You better start setting up a guppy breeding operation yourself.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:16 AM   #15
 
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Ok, there's no way this is normal.

The 29g I'm cycling for the Dempsey is...barely cycling. I'm still getting an ammonia reading that's off the charts, but no nitrite at all. I tried two different nitrite tests just to be sure, but both are still showing zero. What's going on here? I ran out of nitrate tester (as that's the one I use most often usually) but I doubt two 2-inch prawns can be producing ammonia faster than the the bacteria can process, right? I have a Skilter 250 power filter and a Fluval 204 on the tank, with tons of media for bacteria to grow on. I've also got filter floss in both filters that came from two different established tanks. What gives?
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:03 AM   #16
 
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how long ago did you start the cycling?
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:19 AM   #17
 
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It's been about three weeks now.
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:30 AM   #18
 
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maybe its just a curse of 29 gallon tanks. mine took ages nearly 2 months. maybe there is even some science to it. 3 in the morning is probably not the time to try and figure that one out yet.

so you had nitrites and now they are gone right? i would think 4 inches of rotting shrimp would make a sizable amount of ammonia. you could always fish one of them out do a good water change and monitor the ammonia and nitrites then.
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:33 AM   #19
 
How high is the ammonia? Could it be high enough to kill the bacteria?
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Old 08-22-2008, 03:14 PM   #20
 
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How high is the ammonia? Could it be high enough to kill the bacteria?
Is that possible? I'm not really sure the exact number on it. The closest color match is the top of the charts, 8 ppm. I didn't think bacteria that metabolize ammonia could die from too much of it, but then again I'm not exactly a biologist so who knows?

If that is possible, would you recommend a water change to bring the ammonia down a bit?
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