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post #21 of 41 Old 03-01-2014, 07:02 AM Thread Starter
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Just done water test.
Ph 7.6
Ammonia. 0.25 ppm
Nitrite 5.0 ppm
Nitrate. 80 ppm. (Solution looks blood red).

Thinking need to do a water change to reduce the nitrate
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post #22 of 41 Old 03-01-2014, 08:59 AM
Just to let you know...........there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing a "fish-in" cycle as long as it's done RIGHT! What is "right"? Using a product like Prime (we do) and then using TSS (we did) and then put our betta in. It's been two weeks tomorrow since starting this and everything is FINE! Our water parameters are great! As advised, by a member who done the cycling this way, we haven't touched the water, only fed our betta. Our beautiful betta, Stormy, is doing great!

I would never do a "fish-in" cycling w/o Prime and TSS!!
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post #23 of 41 Old 03-01-2014, 09:01 AM Thread Starter
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I am going a fishless cycle

Others here have asked me to keep posting results
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post #24 of 41 Old 03-01-2014, 09:11 AM
Not necessarily addressing the way you are cycling, just responding to some folks who think it is wrong to do a "fish-in" cycle. The way we are doing it isn't hurting our betta at all!
As for me, I wouldn't like seeing fish flakes laying all over the bottom of the tank and them trying to clean them all up. What one Replier said is VERY true.......that kind of cycling is basically not done anymore.
The other kind of cycling is with adding ammonia and I'm just not into messing with ammonia everyday!
Safestart and QuickStart were made for a reason........."fish-in" cycling!

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post #25 of 41 Old 03-01-2014, 12:39 PM
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So you didn't change your water for 2 weeks with the fish in cycle?
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post #26 of 41 Old 03-01-2014, 04:39 PM
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The discussion regarding fishless versus fish-in is long-lasting and ongoing. There are merits and disadvantages to each. The introduction of reliable live-bacteria products has added a new dimension and complication to these discussions. I would welcome a discussion about these various methods and procedures in another thread.

For now, I think it would be best to continue coaching Ian through his classic fishless cycle. We, lurkers incuded, would all benefit from this learnig experience.
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post #27 of 41 Old 03-01-2014, 05:29 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks hallyx
Advice is appreciated.
Changed about a 3rd of the water after this morning test.

Planning on testing again tomorrow
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post #28 of 41 Old 03-02-2014, 02:01 AM
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Nitrate is a little high, but if your nitrite is 5.0, please do not add fish yet . You're producing lots of nitrate which is good. Little more time for bacteria to multiply and you'll be ready for fish. When I see readings like that, Im usually about a week to 10 days off.
If you do not have fish in I see no reason to change water yet.

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post #29 of 41 Old 03-02-2014, 11:19 AM
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Don't worry about nitrate. 80ppm is high but that's not your problem. Having nitrite >5.0ppm can stall or slow the cycle. A 50% water change (or two) will take care of both conditions.
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post #30 of 41 Old 03-02-2014, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
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Just done a water test and results are as follows

Ammonia between 0- 0.25 ppm
Nitrite. 5ppm
Nitrate 160 ppm

So water change as Hally suggest I think.
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