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post #21 of 29 Old 03-04-2009, 08:00 PM Thread Starter
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This shouldn't be about choosing the less damaging option, but rather giving you fish the best living conditions possible...
agreed.

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post #22 of 29 Old 03-04-2009, 08:00 PM Thread Starter
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If you are diligent about your water changes and have many, many, plants, you could probably make it work. Just provide aeration.
That's more or less what I was thinking...

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-3x Angelfish
-5x Velvet Red Swordtail
-3x Albino Cory Cat
-3x Clown Loach
-3x Black Mollie
-1x Red Tailed Shark
-1x General Pleco
-1x Snail

10 Gallon

Quarantine

37 Gallon (Wanted)

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150 Gallon (Wanted)

-5x Bala Shark
-2x Neon Blue Goarami
-5x Clown Loach
-1x Black Knife Ghost
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post #23 of 29 Old 03-05-2009, 02:09 PM
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I'm glad to hear that you've got a filter for the tank.

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Tyyrlm, I have a filter now (thanks a bunch to Amyk)...I agree Air Stones are not filtration. My question (although it's handled) is:

Would you rather see me...

A. Put a betta in a 10g tank and do 25% weekly water changes (no filter)

or

B. Leave the Betta at the store in it's cup.

It's A. or B...

Thanks, Sj
Frankly I don't see a whole lot of difference in the two. The betta has a little more room in the 10 gallon tank but its going to be almost as miserable in the tank as the cup as it's water quality will deteriorate rapidly.

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I wouldn't try cycling my tank with the betta in it. I was just curious about the filter. Can the tank cycle without the filter?
Very unlikely. The bacteria responsible for the conversion of nitrogenous substances need both area to grow in and flow to keep them fed. While The tank provides area without something moving the water it has little flow. It's one of the reasons that plant only filtration tanks have so few fish in them.

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post #24 of 29 Old 03-05-2009, 02:14 PM
So the flow from the filter helps to feed the bacteria. Thanks for the info.
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Yes, the flow through the filter ensures that bacteria there are getting a constant stream of oxygenated, ammonia and nitrite laden water.

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post #26 of 29 Old 03-05-2009, 02:21 PM
Another question lol : What filter could you reccommend for a 4 gallon tank that would be easy to maintain and would be good for someone like me who knows NOTHING about filters and little about cycling?
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Another question lol : What filter could you reccommend for a 4 gallon tank that would be easy to maintain and would be good for someone like me who knows NOTHING about filters and little about cycling?
I have a Tetra Whisper in my 5g and they are good-very simple design, no assembly, and you can control water flow
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post #28 of 29 Old 03-05-2009, 06:34 PM
OK, thank you for the info.
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post #29 of 29 Old 03-07-2009, 01:39 AM
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I used to have a betta in a 10 gal tank and since I read that they don't like flow, I found somewhere on one of the forums where you take a plastic bottle and cut the top and bottom off so you end up with a cylinder, then you cut it so you end up basically with a curled piece of plastic. You then put that so it curves under the waterfall, thus reducing the turbulence. (This probably doesn't make but if I can find that picture of it I'll post it). Anyways, it worked fine, but I often found the betta swimming through the turbulent area above the plastic, and also when I poured water in during changes he would go under wehre I was pouring. So he didn't seem to mind the flow!
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