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Could I get away w/ no filter on a 10 gallon beta tank?
Old 02-23-2009, 09:09 PM   #11
 
If you have a filter then you have to cycle, don't you?
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:30 PM   #12
 
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Alright, I was just wondering because at the stores you will never see filters. I'll buy one, thanks.
It bears mentioning that pet store conditions ARE NOT proper care for fish. Pet stores provide the minimum amount of care necessary to keep fish alive until someone purchases them. Bettas are unfortunately enough to be both finicky enough about who they share a tank with to make them nearly impossible to keep in the general population, and tough enough to take the kind of abuse that leaving them in those tiny unheated cups is.

You can cram a man into a 4' x 4' x 4' box with only a tiny air hole and a dribble in a bit of food and water every day and he'll probably survive for quite some time. I don't think anyone will think he's happy about it.

All you have to do to see how wrong the idea of keeping them in cups is is to take one home and put them into a proper tank. My betta went from a pale faded blue and pink fish sitting on the bottom of his cup with his fins drooping to a rich, deep purple and red fish with his fins flowing as he swims around his tank.

As for a filter a sponge filter is a great idea for a betta tank. As are the smaller internal filters. Neither should cost you much more than $20.

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Old 03-02-2009, 03:34 PM   #13
 
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No you don't have to have one. You could get an air stone and that would be sufficient enough. Or you could go with a very small filter, the sponge filter is cheap and a good idea.
So yes you can get away with it, but they would be better off with some type of filtration.
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Old 03-02-2009, 03:35 PM   #14
 
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If you have a filter then you have to cycle, don't you?
The tank will cycle on its own eventually, but a betta should be fine living through it with 25% wc's once a week.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:38 AM   #15
 
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No you don't have to have one. You could get an air stone and that would be sufficient enough.
Air stones are not a filtration mechanism.

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The tank will cycle on its own eventually, but a betta should be fine living through it with 25% wc's once a week.
The tank will cycle eventually but in the mean time the betta will be exposed to high ammonia and eventually nitrite levels. During fish in cycling a 25% weekly water change is insufficient for a betta in a 10 gallon tank. The betta will likely survive the ordeal just because of how tough they are but they will be no means be "fine". Severe stress and gill damage are guaranteed.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:08 PM   #16
 
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Air stones are not a filtration mechanism.


The tank will cycle eventually but in the mean time the betta will be exposed to high ammonia and eventually nitrite levels. During fish in cycling a 25% weekly water change is insufficient for a betta in a 10 gallon tank. The betta will likely survive the ordeal just because of how tough they are but they will be no means be "fine". Severe stress and gill damage are guaranteed.

Tyyrlm, I have a filter now (thanks a bunch to Amyk)...I agree Air Stones are not filtration. My question (although it's handled) is:

Would you rather see me...

A. Put a betta in a 10g tank and do 25% weekly water changes (no filter)

or

B. Leave the Betta at the store in it's cup.

It's A. or B...

Thanks, Sj
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:14 PM   #17
 
I wouldn't try cycling my tank with the betta in it. I was just curious about the filter. Can the tank cycle without the filter?
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:52 PM   #18
 
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Tyyrlm, I have a filter now (thanks a bunch to Amyk)...I agree Air Stones are not filtration. My question (although it's handled) is:

Would you rather see me...

A. Put a betta in a 10g tank and do 25% weekly water changes (no filter)

or

B. Leave the Betta at the store in it's cup.

It's A. or B...

Thanks, Sj
This shouldn't be about choosing the less damaging option, but rather giving you fish the best living conditions possible...
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:59 PM   #19
 
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If you are diligent about your water changes and have many, many, plants, you could probably make it work. Just provide aeration.
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:59 PM   #20
 
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I wouldn't try cycling my tank with the betta in it. I was just curious about the filter. Can the tank cycle without the filter?
I've heard it doesn't...but I'm not 100%.
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