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Is this the correct? Water change etiquette?
Old 05-07-2010, 09:48 AM   #11
 
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Hi Byron, not to hijack a thread but I wanted to verify something, are you squirting the conditioner in the tank and then adding water straight from the tap to the tank with the python? no worries for chlorine? Just asking because I just inherited a 55 GAL (WhooHoo!) and water changes are a little bit of concern with me, I struggle with carrying 2 5-Gal buckets to clean the 26-gal tank I have (Sad I know, I am a wimp though).
Johnny answered you, but just so you'll know I didn't ignore your direct question, yes. I have 115g, 90g and 70g aquaria and I use a Python--Aqueon makes one too, in my view if you're considering buying one get the Aqueon, they are better made when it comes to the faucet attachment. Whichever, it attaches to the tap (they have adaptors to fit various types, but in my experience if you can connect it to a laundry tap that has proper threads it is much better) and water can by syphoned out using the water flow of the tap; you turn the valve and it reverses and fills the tank. When I start filling, I squirt the conditioner into the aquarium. I have done this for 15 years, doing 50% water changes, and we have heavy chlorination in our tap water (nothing else fortunately) but I've never had any issues. B.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:45 PM   #12
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byron do you do the full dosage for the water condition based on your tank size? or just the dosage for the amount of water you are changing?
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:17 PM   #13
 
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The only part of your method I would question is the need for filtration for the new water. Assuming you don't have anything living in those buckets, there really ought to be nothing to filter, right?
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Old 05-08-2010, 12:42 AM   #14
 
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The only part of your method I would question is the need for filtration for the new water. Assuming you don't have anything living in those buckets, there really ought to be nothing to filter, right?
Throw in a Labrador and no matter how sterile you think something should be, (I keep lids on EVERYTHING) you will find pet hair in it. I vacuum daily, bathe him weekly, and still can't walk out of the house with out dog hair on me. It's no great shakes but it does ensure I'm not dumping dog fur in with the fish.
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Old 05-08-2010, 01:20 PM   #15
 
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I understand the conundrum. I have a dog and two cats. I've experienced a lot of success just skimming the buckets of water. But, if the filters accomplish your desired end, then who's to argue?

The hair will eventually cause problems with a lot of filters, so make sure to keep up on that.
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Old 05-08-2010, 01:53 PM   #16
 
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byron do you do the full dosage for the water condition based on your tank size? or just the dosage for the amount of water you are changing?
I would only dose for the water being added, not for the enitre tank volume.
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Old 05-08-2010, 01:57 PM   #17
 
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This thread is enlightening. I'm going to look into buying a python (or some tubing and something to connect to the sink...)

Anyways, to answer the original post, I do think it's overkill. If you can, what I do is I have a digital thermometer, and get the water from the faucet to the correct temperature and then fill the bucket. Keep an eye though as the temperature can change. Never had a problem with this method. Also, using this method you won't keep it out very long and won't have to worry about dog hair.
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:05 PM   #18
 
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I looked into buying a python....but $60 seemed like a lot when I was looking around....what I did was buy a siphon from Petco, then bought the clear tubing from lowes. It was like $12 for 25 feet of tubing...I siphon and hook the long tube to the end of it, and run it down the hall and into the bathroom tub. Then I remove the siphon at the one end and drop it into the tank. I then hook an attachment to the end that was in the tub and screw it into my faucet, and temper the water then fill it up as described before.

Its not an "offical python" but it's the Johnny D special!!! does the same thing basically
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Old 05-08-2010, 03:47 PM   #19
 
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I tested my hot water by itself and it is actually different from the cold water. I suspected, but now I know.

PH 8.2
Ammo .5~1.0
Nitrite 0 ppm
Nitrate 0 ~ 5 ppm
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:30 AM   #20
 
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I tested my hot water by itself and it is actually different from the cold water. I suspected, but now I know.

PH 8.2
Ammo .5~1.0
Nitrite 0 ppm
Nitrate 0 ~ 5 ppm
I'm not saying it may not be possible, but I would be very skeptical of differing parameters for hot and cold water; the water is the same source and I wouldn't think anything inside the heater could alter pH or nitrates. It may add metals, but that is completely different. There is the CO2 issue, of course.

Run hot and cold together at normal aquarium temp, then collect a glass of water and let it sit 24 hours, then test for pH, etc. That will give you a fairly accurate reading of the tap water.
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