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Cloudy Water and a few questions (newbie)
Old 08-04-2008, 01:07 PM   #21
 
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Just a Update guys, i sent out a SOS on craigslist in my are and ive got 5 replies so far with people willing to help me by either cutting the cost of their tanks or if i get a tank helping me with the pump and such, plus im really good at wood work and im looking at maybe building a plywood tank if the craigslist falls through (most of the supplies to build the plywood tank i can get really cheap because of where i work) if i do make one will will make a build log to post in another section!...even if the craigslist doesnt fall through i might just build one just to have it if i ever want to setup a new tank because i saw some really neat setups for them
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:18 PM   #22
 
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Alright here is a update, i did a water change this morning just did water testing and the results are in:
PH: 7.6
HighPH: 8-8.2
Nitrite: 0
Ammonia:2
Nitrate: 0

And it also looks like i might be getting a 150 gallon setup soon a nice person ive been talking to is willing to help me out so we will see how it goes since he isnt using his tank anymore.

also do you think i should do another water change? or is once a day enough

all the fish seem rather happy weirdly enough, they are out moving around ive been watching their fins to make sure none of them are attacking eachother and everyone seems to be 100%!!

today has been a much better day oh and also the cloudy water has went away
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Old 08-04-2008, 08:23 PM   #23
 
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Have you been back to this fish store to give them a piece of your mind?

One water change a day is plenty. Anymore and it could just stress your fish out even more. Good to hear that you may have a 150 gallon tank on the way.

Just so you know a 75 gallon is good enough for two oscars. Its a little much to say that an oscar needs 75 gallons by itself.
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Old 08-04-2008, 09:12 PM   #24
 
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Have you been back to this fish store to give them a piece of your mind?

One water change a day is plenty. Anymore and it could just stress your fish out even more. Good to hear that you may have a 150 gallon tank on the way.

Just so you know a 75 gallon is good enough for two oscars. Its a little much to say that an oscar needs 75 gallons by itself.
Thanks for the info, and no i haven't been back to the store yet im not good with my temper face to face so the way i deal with things is i fix the problem before i go scream at the person who caused it heh once he said no returns over the phone the first day i posted here, i hung up (pissed off) and havent thought of him since, ive just been thinking about saving the fish and its been taking up a lot of my time....im doing a trial by fire it seems heh, my girlfriend doesnt fully understand what this guy has done to us with the fish all she knows is they are pretty and she likes them and they "WILL NOT DIE SINCE THEY WERE PART OF HER BIRTHDAY PRESENT" you can tell who wears the pants over here huh haha but yea today is looking up lets just see how things go over the next week or so
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:00 AM   #25
 
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I think a 150 gallon tank would probably be good for all of your fish minus the Africans. You'd still have to keep an eye on aggression, though.
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:19 AM   #26
 
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I think a 150 gallon tank would probably be good for all of your fish minus the Africans. You'd still have to keep an eye on aggression, though.
thanks for the info, once i get the 150 gallon (tomorrow if the lady doesnt sell it before i make it there she promised me she would wait till i got off work)


ive read a lot about DIY skimmer, overflow, and sump's its what ive been going the past....4 hours now? this is what i want to do with the sump unless there is a better way, i was going to split a 20 gallon tank in half like the DIY page reads (but he uses a 10 gallon) and that 1 gallon of bio balls = 30 gallons of water filtering (i know the bio balls dont do all the filtering) so if i do 10 gallons oh bio balls i will be well over (which isnt bad right?) but the submersible pump has me, what size should i get? something around 780GPH or so? im very crafty so im not afraid to build this myself plus i have almost everything minus the floss filter, eggcrate and plastic breeder screen in my work shop (im a maintenance man) ....not sure what "plastic breeder screen" is i think its just plastic screening correct? kinda like the stuff you use to screen in a porch...just plasic right? other than them 3 parts and a 20 gallon tank for the sump i have it all, also i saw in the DIY he said if he made another one he would of used a 20 gallon tank so it would fit a submersible heater in it, is that a good idea or should i stick with the heaters in the tank itself?

thats as far as ive got on reading up on setting up a larger tank i know there is more to it than just that part but my brain is in overload and i need to get some sleep haha, plus i wont be setting this up till i make my move which should be by the 16th of this month to a bigger apartment so ive got much more time to keep reading but the pump for the sump i woudldnt mind a little help with, is too much a bad thing? would it remove the water from the sump faster than the wet/day filter could put it back in the sump tank?

thats all for tonight guys and the fish are looking great also as a update for them, im going to go check the ammonia level real fast before i crash

its still ranging around 1.0-2.0

maybe by the end of the week it will be looking better, it is dropping though, oh one more thing since i said soemthing about moving, whats going to be the best way to move these little guys, im only moving 2 buildings down from where i live now should i bottle up the water from the tank to transfer it to the new apartment then put it back in?


Thanks a lot guys i love this place and its making me learn something new in my life which i love to do!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-05-2008, 04:58 AM   #27
 
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Not really sure what to tell you about the DIY pumps, sorry someone else can fill you in on that. I'm not a handyman But are you talking protein skimmers? They are normally used for saltwater tanks. But I suppose its just extra filtration.

Wow, if that guy said no returns after all that crap, I would probably protest outside of his store

You can really never over do it with filters, the more filtration the better. It'll help keep up with all the fish you've got.

Have you checked to make sure your new apartment will allow a 150 gallon tank? that might be to big of a tank for some places, due to it being so heavy and putting a lot of stress on the floor, blahblahblah long story short it can be a disaster. But to move the fish tank, all you need is buckets. Lots and lots o buckets. Well you really only need like 4 5 gallon buckets, a couple for water, and gravel, and enough probably one or two for fish just make sure its not crowded. you also need to make sure your filter stays wet during the move and doesn't remain unplugged for too long. This move could actually be very bad for your tank. Since it is a young tank and hasn't even cycled yet you risk killing off all the bacteria thats built up. So use caution, make the fish tank the first or last thing you move and do it all at once and quickly.

I hope this helps, glad you like us :D
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:30 AM   #28
 
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Wow...sounds like you live in a good area with some helpful people. I don't know anybody around that is even remotely interested in this stuff and would be this helpful. Oh well. Sounds like the "crash course" is going well.

Protein skimmers's are a saltwater thing, I don't think they're meant to be used on freshwater tanks....*shrug*

As for the weight, yeah, that was another concern. I know you're in charge of the building so have you checked to make sure it won't go crashing through the floor?

As for ammonia, when the tank is cycling we consider .25 the most we can house our fish in, you might have to take .50 but keep doing water changes at least daily. I wouldn't worry about the cycle at this point.
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Old 08-05-2008, 07:50 AM   #29
 
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Not really sure what to tell you about the DIY pumps, sorry someone else can fill you in on that. I'm not a handyman But are you talking protein skimmers? They are normally used for saltwater tanks. But I suppose its just extra filtration.

Wow, if that guy said no returns after all that crap, I would probably protest outside of his store

You can really never over do it with filters, the more filtration the better. It'll help keep up with all the fish you've got.

Have you checked to make sure your new apartment will allow a 150 gallon tank? that might be to big of a tank for some places, due to it being so heavy and putting a lot of stress on the floor, blahblahblah long story short it can be a disaster. But to move the fish tank, all you need is buckets. Lots and lots o buckets. Well you really only need like 4 5 gallon buckets, a couple for water, and gravel, and enough probably one or two for fish just make sure its not crowded. you also need to make sure your filter stays wet during the move and doesn't remain unplugged for too long. This move could actually be very bad for your tank. Since it is a young tank and hasn't even cycled yet you risk killing off all the bacteria thats built up. So use caution, make the fish tank the first or last thing you move and do it all at once and quickly.

I hope this helps, glad you like us :D

yea im sure a 150 gallon fish tank might be to big for where i live, but where im moving is down stairs in what us apartment people call "villa". 2 bedroom 2 bath split floor plsn almost 1000q feet and it has a sun room which is where ide set it up with dome nice heavy curtains to block out most if not alll the light so i dont cook them but can still open them up to give them and im the property supervisor so im kinda exempt from most the rules
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:03 AM   #30
 
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WOOO!! going to pick up the tank right now on my lunch i just got to figure out how me and my girlfriend are going to get it in the back of her jeep haha i did some measuring and its going to stick out about half a foot so im going to have to use rope i guess i will take pictures of it once i get it home and cleaned up after work
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