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Greetings all. my first posting: I have just set up my 55 G after being down for about a year.It's fresh water planned for community fish. After about 2 days, the water clouded up significantly which a number of fish-store folks say is normal. It has been about 5 days now and water is still pretty cloudy. How long will this remain the case? Thanks
hi there!!! welcome the forums!!!!!
give us some information about your tank( filter,heater, test kit using, declorinator, substrate, fetilizer, plants,air stones, powerhead, how did you cycle?,fish anything in particular) it will help us know somethings before really telling you what it could be. most likely it is very normal it should be gone soon.
you havent added fish right? hopefully your doing a fishless cycle!
Im happy you've joined our community!! and again welcome to the tropical fish keeping forums!!!!
thanks for the welcome!! As far as some of the basics, the filter is an Eheim 2215 which I've had for awhile. It was cleaned and serviced after the tank was disassembled (had a house fire and did an addition while being repaired), substrate is gravel, I purchased a fairly elaborate heater but couldn't tell you the brand while the plants are plastic. As far as fish, I added the artificial bacteria treatment suggested by my local shop and against my better judgement, added 4 small Angels as my grandchildren 'insisted'. The fish seem fine but as mentioned, the water is cloudy. thanks again!!
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just keep us posted on whats going on with your tank. Remember to ask questions anything that you might have in mind ask it could make a big difference to the health and well-being of your little fishes!!!
Thanks again. I do understand the principle of recycling but my shop guy mentioned that with this treatment system, I could begin adding fish right away. He suggested Zebra Danios as being pretty hardy but as mentioned, the kids and I opted for the Angels. My shop guy thought they'd be OK as long as that was it but maybe he was as disinclined to argue with two formidible rugrats as I was! I'm sorry, I don't remembeer the brand of the treatment but the other thing he mentioned was that to be affective, fish had to be added immediately. I'll report back as time goes on!!
okay then. Some supplements claim that you can add fish right away but I have never heard of any of them succeeding. Those bacteria boosters are just to jump start cycles with some bacteria but by the time your fish begin making their bioloads and begins to accumilatate the levels of ammonia will rise no matter what. that is why you really have to keep changing half of the water everyday. zebra danios will survive the cycle but that doesnt mean that its humane. I could survive in a room partially filled with carbon dioxide and other harmful toxins but that doesnt mean im going to enjoy it very much you know? your fish will be stressed out and their immune system will go down because of it. all I can recommend you is to do 50% water changes everyday for now. If you dont have an API master test kit I would get one. Dont rely on testing strips they are really inacurate. hopefully your angels will get through the process.
just keep us posted about whats going on okay?
Originally Posted by leogtr View Post
The loss of the Tiger Barbs is a blessing in disguise. You have some very serious compatibility issues looming with your selection of fish. And the p|H adjustment may well kill other fish, I'll explain momentarily, but first the compatibility problems.
First, angelfish are slow, sedate fish with long fins. Tankmates have to be carefully selected, as many will find the angels' fins too tempting and start nipping them off, which is highly stressful to the angels and if allowed to continue the angels will almost certainly die from this. Also, fish that are quite active can stress out angels just by swimming around them.
Tiger Barb and Serpae Tetra are two of the worst fish to put in with angels for the fin-nipping aspect. Both these fish tend to be fin nippers at any time, even with each other. You can read more in our profiles. Click on the shaded name to see that fish's profile, it will explain all this. You need to remove these from the tank, return them, give them away, whatever.
The Zebra danio are too active to be in with angels; this applies to all danio species, and all barbs.
Fish that are under stress, even if nothing "appears" to you, will have weakened immune systems which makes them more likely to come down with other health issues, and almost invariably have shorter lifespans. No different than humans under severe stress.
Now for the pH. The pH of water is connected to the hardness. Carbonate hardness (KH) acts as a buffer to keep the pH stable, whatever it is in the tap water. Adding chemicals to lower it will usually not work; they may lower it briefly, but as the KH buffers work to bring it back up, the pH fluctuates down and up, and this is highly stressful to all fish. If you can tell us the hardness of your tap water--and your water supply folks will know this, some have websites with the water analysis posted--we will be able to offer advice on how to lower the pH naturally and safely, if that is really necessary. It is preferable to select fish that will manage in your tap water, rather than adjusting tap water. And many fish that are commercially raised, as those you have mentioned are, can be quite tolerant, at least up to a point. I can go into this more when I know the hardness number(s).
Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada
The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]
Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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