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post #1 of 8 Old 08-28-2011, 08:04 AM Thread Starter
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I got this problem with reaccuring cloudiness in my 55g, I got a 60g filter which i just added ALOT of activated carbon too hoping that will help, I have 33 fish total at the moment the biggest being two plecos about 3 inch long and 2 silver tipped sharkes being about the same in length the mollies are about 2 in a piece and there are 6 of them, but it will be clear for a week and then cloudy again, all my decor accept for 4 items are real, Mopani wood and about 8 dwarf sward plants. Did a 15% water change and added conditioner vacuumed the gravel ETC Any Ideas??
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post #2 of 8 Old 08-28-2011, 08:20 AM
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I got this problem with reaccuring cloudiness in my 55g, I got a 60g filter which i just added ALOT of activated carbon too hoping that will help, I have 33 fish total at the moment the biggest being two plecos about 3 inch long and 2 silver tipped sharkes being about the same in length the mollies are about 2 in a piece and there are 6 of them, but it will be clear for a week and then cloudy again, all my decor accept for 4 items are real, Mopani wood and about 8 dwarf sward plants. Did a 15% water change and added conditioner vacuumed the gravel ETC Any Ideas??

Well to start you have a few fish that might end up being far too big for your 55 gallon tank. Depends on variety of pleco of course. If they are the common pleco they will get huge and outgrow your tank quickly. By Silvertip shark do you mean the Silver Apollo shark or the Colombian shark? I know that Pleco's are very very messy and add a huge bioload to the tank. That said, they are very cool fish (IMO)
I am a huge fan of super clear water in the tank but I do a 60-70% water change every 4-5 days to keep it that way. I also have the tank heavily planted and do a super clean of the filter regularly. My suggestion to you would be to increase the amount of water you are changing. Also, if the Mopani wood is new, it tends to leach some color into the water for awhile. (tannins) It doesn't hurt the fish at all, it just makes the water sort of a tea color and for some, it is less pleasing to look at. It does stop after awhile. Some have also noticed that the Mopani wood will grow a white fuzzy film after some time and then you would want to remove it, scrub it really well and maybe boil it for awhile to kill anything off. Then you can re introduce it to the aquarium after it cools.

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Well to start you have a few fish that might end up being far too big for your 55 gallon tank. Depends on variety of pleco of course. If they are the common pleco they will get huge and outgrow your tank quickly. By Silvertip shark do you mean the Silver Apollo shark or the Colombian shark? I know that Pleco's are very very messy and add a huge bioload to the tank. That said, they are very cool fish (IMO)
I am a huge fan of super clear water in the tank but I do a 60-70% water change every 4-5 days to keep it that way. I also have the tank heavily planted and do a super clean of the filter regularly. My suggestion to you would be to increase the amount of water you are changing. Also, if the Mopani wood is new, it tends to leach some color into the water for awhile. (tannins) It doesn't hurt the fish at all, it just makes the water sort of a tea color and for some, it is less pleasing to look at. It does stop after awhile. Some have also noticed that the Mopani wood will grow a white fuzzy film after some time and then you would want to remove it, scrub it really well and maybe boil it for awhile to kill anything off. Then you can re introduce it to the aquarium after it cools.

The Plecos are common but are just in the tank at the moment to keep algae growth down and they do a good job the sharks are Colombian sharks and sadly not knowing what they were before I bought them I am stuck with them for now they haven't become aggressive as of yet but when they do my LFS owner said he wanted them and the plecos when i decided to relocate them so YAY On that note, I might add that the water does get cloudy more often after I move decor and plants around but it hasn't gotten this bad because of that before, it just looks hazy more than cloudy and the Mopani wood was treated for a while like 6 months before i put it in :P Any more Ideas, I do a 35 % water change ever week and a half or so plus the vacuuming, the siphon is what i use to do the water changes I might add... The pic I have attatched isnt great but maybe it will help.
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post #4 of 8 Old 08-28-2011, 09:11 AM
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Well, this is more of a guess but it looks like you have a hang on back filter and 3 or even 4 air stones? Maybe too much water movement? Maybe it is constantly being stirred up. I am assuming that after you do a water change the water is clear? Again, My thoughts are, the more water changes the better so for me, I would start by increasing the frequency to once a week and maybe for at leasts a few time, increase the quantity. Maybe 60% water change weekly and see how that goes. The other thing is that you don't really need to get to crazy with cleaning the gravel. I mean, I do clean some of it but since you have live plants they will feed from the nutrients in the gravel so... go easy on the cleaning around them.

Maybe someone else will have other suggestions but it has been my experience that water changes can solve most ails in a tank. Good luck and keep us posted.

Have you done some water parameter checks? How do they look? Have you checked your tap/source water? How are those parameters?

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Well, this is more of a guess but it looks like you have a hang on back filter and 3 or even 4 air stones? Maybe too much water movement? Maybe it is constantly being stirred up. I am assuming that after you do a water change the water is clear? Again, My thoughts are, the more water changes the better so for me, I would start by increasing the frequency to once a week and maybe for at leasts a few time, increase the quantity. Maybe 60% water change weekly and see how that goes. The other thing is that you don't really need to get to crazy with cleaning the gravel. I mean, I do clean some of it but since you have live plants they will feed from the nutrients in the gravel so... go easy on the cleaning around them.

Maybe someone else will have other suggestions but it has been my experience that water changes can solve most ails in a tank. Good luck and keep us posted.

Have you done some water parameter checks? How do they look? Have you checked your tap/source water? How are those parameters?
Water parameters are good both ways, ill take an air stone out but i love my bubble lol which one would you suggest bubble curtain bubble pot or round bubbler?
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How long has this tank been running?

Those are live plants? How long is the tank light on each day?

When you say wayter parameters are good tank and tap, can you confirm: ammonia, nitrite and nitrate are zero for tap water; ammonia and nitrite are zero in the tank; what is the nitrate in the tank?

What is the pH, tap and tank?

I can offer some suggestions when I know the above.

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How long has this tank been running?

Those are live plants? How long is the tank light on each day?

When you say wayter parameters are good tank and tap, can you confirm: ammonia, nitrite and nitrate are zero for tap water; ammonia and nitrite are zero in the tank; what is the nitrate in the tank?

What is the pH, tap and tank?

I can offer some suggestions when I know the above.

Byron.
how much does the light times affect fish?

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how much does the light times affect fish?
This is not related to this thread, but I will briefly answer. Like us, fish need periods of darkness to "rest" their systems. Total darkness of 8-12 hours roughly will normally suffice. Fish do not "need" light per say, it is only over the tank for illumination so we can observe them and to grow plants.

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