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post #1 of 12 Old 10-22-2010, 02:54 PM Thread Starter
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I have been doing small water changes about once or twice a week but today I went to go do a 45% water change and the gravel was full of poop. I used the vac and got a lot out but there was still an amount left. Is this bad or is there so way to avoid this? I did get a lot out though there was just a bunch of little pieces that I couldn't get without doing a 100% water change

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post #2 of 12 Old 10-22-2010, 03:33 PM
You dont need to get ALL the poop out, just a good amount of it. As long as you keep on top of those water changes, it will be ok. Also 20% water change will be enough, 45% change with gravel vac might make your aquarium go into a minicycle
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post #3 of 12 Old 10-22-2010, 08:31 PM
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Myself and at least one other member of this forum routinely do 50% weekly water changes but I won't throw someone else's name out there. Neither one of us have any problems out of it, Most of your beneficial bacteria live on hard surfaces not free floating in the water and by most I mean the vast majority. If you use a quality water conditioner and make sure to match the temp of the incoming water, the only real danger with water changes is stress to the fish from lowering the water and pouring the new in.
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post #4 of 12 Old 10-22-2010, 09:08 PM
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Myself and at least one other member of this forum routinely do 50% weekly water changes but I won't throw someone else's name out there. Neither one of us have any problems out of it, Most of your beneficial bacteria live on hard surfaces not free floating in the water and by most I mean the vast majority. If you use a quality water conditioner and make sure to match the temp of the incoming water, the only real danger with water changes is stress to the fish from lowering the water and pouring the new in.
Agreed. I do 50-60% changes weekly on two tanks and 50% changes three times a week on the other and, since the bacteria is mostly on the surfaces, have never had any issues with my cycle.

That said, what do you have in the 10 gallon? Stocking has a lot to do with it. I used to use my 10 as a growout for platy fry and the gravel in there was absolutely FULL of poop every time I cleaned, but they're livebearers (AKA poop machines) and there were quite a few, so it was understandable. The five dwarf puffers in there now hardly have anything to vacuum up.
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post #5 of 12 Old 10-22-2010, 09:23 PM
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Myself and at least one other member of this forum routinely do 50% weekly water changes but I won't throw someone else's name out there. Neither one of us have any problems out of it, Most of your beneficial bacteria live on hard surfaces not free floating in the water and by most I mean the vast majority. If you use a quality water conditioner and make sure to match the temp of the incoming water, the only real danger with water changes is stress to the fish from lowering the water and pouring the new in.
+1. I do 50% water changes weekly on all my tanks (one of my tanks gets a twice weekly 50% water change). IMHO no BB lives in the water column (only in surfaces) so as long as you use a great water conditioner and match temp tp tank there is no problem. Nothing fish appreciate more than good, clean fresh water!

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post #6 of 12 Old 10-23-2010, 12:03 AM
Well the thing is he does his water change with his gravel vac, if you vaccum your substrate too much, it washes away some of the bacteria. If you just take from the water, then it will be fine.
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post #7 of 12 Old 10-23-2010, 12:43 AM
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I dunno... I thoroughly vacuum the gravel in my goldfish tank with the 60% weekly change and still have never had an issue with the cycle. I can't get away with not vacuuming for a week with those messy guys, but it's never caused any problems.
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post #8 of 12 Old 10-23-2010, 01:14 AM
Do you have plants? i know for my old 20g tank, whenever i changed more than half the water and gravel vacced, i had cloudy water the next day and my ammonia would be spiking. After i moved to my 46g with plants, i didnt have that issue anymore.
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I dunno... I thoroughly vacuum the gravel in my goldfish tank with the 60% weekly change and still have never had an issue with the cycle. I can't get away with not vacuuming for a week with those messy guys, but it's never caused any problems.
I also do a fairly thorough gravel vac at each water change with no problem. I do have biowheel filters which I think helps a lot. The biowheels encourage bacteria growth due to the high oxygen exchange. I think as long as you have decent filtration it's safe to do a good gravel vac.

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post #10 of 12 Old 10-23-2010, 11:35 AM
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Do you have plants? i know for my old 20g tank, whenever i changed more than half the water and gravel vacced, i had cloudy water the next day and my ammonia would be spiking. After i moved to my 46g with plants, i didnt have that issue anymore.
Have you tested your tap water? I have a similar thing happen but I know it is because there is ammonia in my tap water. I use prime and have plants so the prime neutralizes it for 24 hours and by then the plants take care of the rest.
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