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post #1 of 19 Old 02-12-2011, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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Carbon-Ammonia...........HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is my first aquarium, and I think I have made an awful mistake. I was at the pet store yesterday, and I saw this Marineland Premium Carbon-Ammonia Neutralizing Blend. I have read that in the beginning stages of having a tank (this is my 4th week), that ammonia levels can spike. The product claimed "great for new aquariums". Well i was doing my weekly water change (20%) and I decided to pour the neutralizing blend in. Now my tank water looks terrible, like one big dust cloud. I'm freaking out because I dont want my fish to die, and more importantly I don't want them to suffer. Did I make a fatal mistake or will my fish be ok? Also a lot of the black gravel hasn't sank, so it's just floating on the top of my tank and getting in the filter pump... any suggestions? Thanks so much!

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post #2 of 19 Old 02-12-2011, 10:48 AM
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You have to wash it before you put it in the filter, to get all the dust off. The fish will probably be fine - I wouldn't worry.

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post #3 of 19 Old 02-12-2011, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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I didn't put it into the filter, I just poured on top of the gravel. And now I have all these black pieces of gravel floating on the top of my tank and getting stuck in the filter pump. Also, the water claritiy is all messed up... will that subdue over time?
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post #4 of 19 Old 02-12-2011, 11:17 AM
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Ohhhhh, yeah, it belongs in the filter....

I'd get it out and try again putting it in the filter. You'll need a media bag.

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Yea, like I said I'm new to keepin fish. Basically a really stupid mistake. So any suggestions..... should I try and scoop it out, remove the black gravel that is floating, will this kill my fish and completely throw off my water specs? Thanks for your help.
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I didn't put it into the filter, I just poured on top of the gravel. ?
Oh ****ums.


I did that though way back when I started out. Only I DID put it in the filter, without the media bag!

You don't need carbon. Lose it. You only need it to take out meds in your tank after a treatment. It is a waste of money and can take out important nutrients in your water.

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Yea, like I said I'm new to keepin fish. Basically a really stupid mistake. So any suggestions..... should I try and scoop it out, remove the black gravel that is floating, will this kill my fish and completely throw off my water specs? Thanks for your help.
Always ask if you don't know, esp if you are new to the hobby. Might save a life or two. Don't worry about dumb questions. I am the queen of dumb questions.

I would do water changes and test your params often.

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2 Swordtails
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post #8 of 19 Old 02-12-2011, 12:58 PM
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Good advice above. Scoop out the stuff, do a large water change -75%.

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90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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A clarification on the carbon. If there are live plants, carbon is unnecessary and probably detrimental to the plants. But if there are no live plants, using carbon will be beneficial, as it then removes some of the toxins that live plants would handle. And in a tank with cichlids, and no plants, I would definitely use carbon.

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A lot of people get piece of mind from using carbon. I used to as well, though I stopped using it a couple years ago. None of my tanks are planted, none of them have carbon in the filter (or in the tank :) ). If I had noticed any problems I would have resumed using it. In my tanks it has not made a difference. I do recommend starting with it and making the decision of whether or not to stick with the carbon after you've got more experience.

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125 - cichlids (severums, bolivian rams, chocolate), rainbows ( turquoise, red), loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, tiretrack eel, pearl gouramis, betta
90 - Congo tetras, african knife, upside down cats, spotted ctenopoma, kribensis, delhezzi bichir
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