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Old 06-17-2012, 03:31 PM   #21
 
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OHH, wow well I am stumped then... I thought they were going that colour since you put the nitrazorb product in the tank.

I did notice that the first test you did right after you put the test solution in in VID 1 as you moved the tube out of shot it looked like it had gone purple already, maybe 2nd/3rd colour marker maybe? but the camera is all out of focus so its hard to tell.

If you can tell us the whole story from start to finish, as to why you changed the filter media and the put the nitra zorb in etc.

One of the more experienced members may have seen the test kit do that before? I haven't, but I have only been keeping fish for 4 or 5 months..
Ok ill start over lol. My tank is a month old so far. it did spike while cycling for a bit but then 4 weeks in it leveled out and everything was were it supposed to be so i added fish. Its been a breeze for first 2 weeks but yesterday am i noticed this color change when i tested water. So i figured nitrites went out of whack so i changed carbon out with this fluval clearmax which is supposed to remove nitrites and nitrates and also threw in the nitra zorb to get it back down. also figured the cycle bacteria i added would stabilize it abit too but its still the same so ill leave it a few days and see what happens. do you guys think i should swap clearmax back to regular carbon and take nitra zorb out too.
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:43 PM   #22
 
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Ok ill start over lol. My tank is a month old so far. it did spike while cycling for a bit but then 4 weeks in it leveled out and everything was were it supposed to be so i added fish. Its been a breeze for first 2 weeks but yesterday am i noticed this color change when i tested water. So i figured nitrites went out of whack so i changed carbon out with this fluval clearmax which is supposed to remove nitrites and nitrates and also threw in the nitra zorb to get it back down. also figured the cycle bacteria i added would stabilize it abit too but its still the same so ill leave it a few days and see what happens. do you guys think i should swap clearmax back to regular carbon and take nitra zorb out too.
Ok, makes more sense now..

But, what doesn't make sense is the colour that test has gone. I could understand it going a weird colour if you have added a load of different chemicals and that could affect things, as these ammonia and nitrite locking chemicals do weird things (which I don't understand) so the chemicals are still present but they are supposedly turned into a harmless form.. I have never used these type of chemicals so can't really comment, although I have read bad things about them..

If you had a problem with nitrite you would have noticed a purple colour.

The fact it has gone brown, or orange, to me doesn't suggest you have nitrite problems, although it is a possibility if you added all those fish at once. seeing as the tank is only 4-6 weeks old.

The only thing I can suggest for spiking levels of ammonia or nitrite in emergency is to dose heavily (as per instructions on the bottle) of the water conditioner by Seachem called PRIME. This does actually make the ammonia and nitrite harmless to the fish for around 24/36 hours, and then you want to be doing good hefty water changes too, daily, sometimes twice a day.

I would put everything back the way it was, take that zorb stuff out. do a 50% water change, make sure you use a de-chlorinator (I suggest PRIME) and leave things a day or so and observe. There is a possibility that the test has for some reason gone faulty, maybe its been near heat, or sunlight or something?? is there detergent on the test tubes maybe?
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:52 PM   #23
 
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Ok, makes more sense now..

But, what doesn't make sense is the colour that test has gone. I could understand it going a weird colour if you have added a load of different chemicals and that could affect things, as these ammonia and nitrite locking chemicals do weird things (which I don't understand) so the chemicals are still present but they are supposedly turned into a harmless form.. I have never used these type of chemicals so can't really comment, although I have read bad things about them..

If you had a problem with nitrite you would have noticed a purple colour.

The fact it has gone brown, or orange, to me doesn't suggest you have nitrite problems, although it is a possibility if you added all those fish at once. seeing as the tank is only 4-6 weeks old.

The only thing I can suggest for spiking levels of ammonia or nitrite in emergency is to dose heavily (as per instructions on the bottle) of the water conditioner by Seachem called PRIME. This does actually make the ammonia and nitrite harmless to the fish for around 24/36 hours, and then you want to be doing good hefty water changes too, daily, sometimes twice a day.

I would put everything back the way it was, take that zorb stuff out. do a 50% water change, make sure you use a de-chlorinator (I suggest PRIME) and leave things a day or so and observe. There is a possibility that the test has for some reason gone faulty, maybe its been near heat, or sunlight or something?? is there detergent on the test tubes maybe?
Yes, what he said.
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:23 PM   #24
 
thanks guys i pulled out the nitra zorb and fluval clearmax bags and put carbon bags back in i cant do water change till tomorrow i gotta pick up a brand new gravel vac.
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Old 06-17-2012, 08:27 PM   #25
 
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thanks guys i pulled out the nitra zorb and fluval clearmax bags and put carbon bags back in i cant do water change till tomorrow i gotta pick up a brand new gravel vac.
Im curious to see what happens next.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:04 PM   #26
 
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Yes, keep us informed. I would like to see that test go back to the right colours!

How are the fish? everyone seem ok?
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:19 PM   #27
 
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I am almost 100% certainly bet you that what ever chemicals your putting in there is having a weird results with the API test.

It was blue out of the bottle and as soon as it went into the test tube it started going purple and then red.

That Nitrite test will not do that normally.

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I found this though online. I copied the most important parts...I thought. I put a link to it at the end of the quote.

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Actually, that means your nitrites are off the charts. For the API nitrite test kits, if the liquid turns purple/red and then goes to light blue, it means it's off the charts.
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WTF? I don't mean to sound rude, but where in the world did you come up with that?

Step 4. Wait 5 minutes for the color to develop.
Step 5. Read the test results by matching...... and so on.
Until the reagents have had time to react, nothing you see has any meaning whatsoever.

The only color that means anything is the color after five minutes. Until that point the reagents have not reacted, which is what causes the color we use for measurement.

On the "Fresh and Saltwater Nitrite NO2 Color Card" (API, of course) that I have in my hand, light blue is 0ppm (mg/L).
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That is exactly what API said themselves. I don't know if it was on this forum or not, but a member emailed the company about this (liquid turning red immediately and then light blue) and they said themselves that this means the nitrites are off the charts. I'd like to think they know what they're talking about.
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The instance that Blue_Soda025 was referring to could be due to the fact that the person who had the problem was also dealing with green water, a major algae bloom. We didn't get the full story here.

The nitrite reagent contains hydrochloric acid. It is well within the realm of possibility that when the acid contacted the algae and of course killed it instantly, this caused a color change because the acid was reacting with organic materials.
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Here is a thread about this issue: Aquaria Central Forum Thread
That is what I found though...and the link they give as reference doesn't work.

Is your Kit Expired? Does it have a date on it? Did it when you bought it? If you can't get a 0ppm reading of Nitrite from Tap or Bottled water, then I would really look into this.
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Above you stated you did all that, but it didn't say you tested for Nitrite. This leads me to believe it is the stuff you put in there.

Can you do me a favor and take a test sample from your tap water and test that with the Nitrite test.

This will serve as a control group and see if it is the test or your water. If you get weird results, try bottled water.

Let me know what you get.

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Also, I agree with rhymon78 on this one. Get Prime water conditioner. It will neutralize all harmful metals and Nitrogen based chemicals in the water. This will assure the safety of the fish.

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Another point of concern:

Ammonia 0.25
PH 8
Nitrite ????
Nitrate 10ppm


Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...#ixzz1yB7StMlY

You should not be reading ammonia in a cycled tank. Your water change will be essential right now.

I would test the water for Ammonia and Nitrite (once u get the nitrite solution fixed) every other day until you get 0ppm on both.

My guess is that when you added the fish, you added too many at once. This shocked the system and caused a mini cycle. I have had this happen. Just keep watch of the tank and its parameters.

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Old 06-18-2012, 04:44 PM   #28
 
so i tested nitrite from my tap water and its blue. Funny thing is both have always been 0 ppm when tested untill the other day and those fish have been in there for awhile. think ur right on the mini cycle though but we will get this right. im working on a 50 percent water change as we speak on the 60 gallon and i have my new back up 10 gallon cycling right now today so if anything happens in near future i can temporarily put them in that one.they seem fine today besides a couple of the tiger barbs seem to swim and be rubbing on the plants here and there but dont see any signs of itch either. there is a gray hairy matter growing on the plants is that good bacteria or algae starting. my plecos are enjoying life too right now. lots of action in the tank today. when i first added fish though i only had two bala sharks (temporarily till i get a 150 gallon) and three tigers and started with the others a week ago.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:53 PM   #29
 
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so i tested nitrite from my tap water and its blue. Funny thing is both have always been 0 ppm when tested untill the other day and those fish have been in there for awhile. think ur right on the mini cycle though but we will get this right. im working on a 50 percent water change as we speak on the 60 gallon and i have my new back up 10 gallon cycling right now today so if anything happens in near future i can temporarily put them in that one.they seem fine today besides a couple of the tiger barbs seem to swim and be rubbing on the plants here and there but dont see any signs of itch either. there is a gray hairy matter growing on the plants is that good bacteria or algae starting. my plecos are enjoying life too right now. lots of action in the tank today. when i first added fish though i only had two bala sharks (temporarily till i get a 150 gallon) and three tigers and started with the others a week ago.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:56 PM   #30
 
yup figured so well ill do on 50 % today and one in another 3 days maybe
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