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Cannister filter First timer! Need advice!
Old 05-24-2012, 03:04 PM   #1
 
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Cannister filter First timer! Need advice!

Hello everyone!

I just purchased and received my very first canister filter. I bought this one:
Amazon.com: EHEIM Classic 2215 External Canister Filter with Media for up to 92 US Gallons: Pet Supplies Amazon.com: EHEIM Classic 2215 External Canister Filter with Media for up to 92 US Gallons: Pet Supplies

My question is... I have NO idea how to put this thing together -- the directions look like they are made for someone who knows what they are doing. Any tips on how to make this as smooth as possible?

Also -- is there a carbon layer I should leave out of the filter material?


Also.. my tank is a 55g, fully planted tank.. any tips/tricks on where to place the spray bars? Or just in general any tips that a newbie might not know about canister filters in general?

Thank y ou!!
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:02 PM   #2
 
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Well, I don't have that canister specifically so there isn't anything I can help with on putting it together.

There should be an In side, and an Out side. Plug the hoses in, and that should be it. That should be sufficiently vauge enough ;)

For media, no you do not need carbon with a planted tank. In my own canister in the first basket I have Fluval ceramic pre-filter rings even though my canister isn't made by Fluval. In the second stage I have a sponge followed by two finer pads for mechanical filtration. In the last stage I have one more filter pad and then a bag of ceramic bio rings. The bio rings shouldn't be needed in a planted tank, but I wanted them there as a backup, plus I can pull it out if I need to for an emergency tank start up if I need that some day.

My canister is an Auatop, so different brand. I've never seen an Eheim running.

For the spray bar, if you want to lessen the current you can have it point towards the glass so that it deflects it a bit.
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:23 PM   #3
 
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It is true that many canister filter instructions are anything but clear. My Rena was very complicated, figuring out the pads.

To your question on the spray bar, it should be at the opposite end from the filter intake so you get a flow down the tank. Nice thing about Eheim is being able to buy hose in any length, so you can place the canister wherever you want it and still have the intake/outflow at opposite ends. And as Geo said, turn the holes on the spraybar toward the end glass (the spraybar goes along the end wall) to weaken the current and direct it slightly downward. Experiment a bit with the direction of the line of holes, you can sometimes get it such that it creates a slight surface movement but the main thrust is down the wall.
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:38 PM   #4
 
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I have the model just below the one you have so it should be the same.
Here is how I got mine setup. Canister media goes as follows:
Bottom layer is the ceramic noodles or Eheim EHFIMECH as they call it. Then the blue coarse pad then the eheim ehfisubstrat or little round media balls then I use filter floss. I don't use the carbon pad nor do I have it anymore. Also my white polishing pad fell apart and it is cheaper for me to use filter floss and it achieves the same thing.
the output or spray bar hooks up to the motor or pump and the intake hooks up to the bottom of the canister. Lie others have said they need to be at opposite ends of the tank.
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:42 PM   #5
 
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I got it up and running! I had to watch a few youtube videos to do it though!

I need to move my spray bar to the end like you say. Do i need to make sure the holes stay under the water while I move it to avoid air pockets?

Also -- how do I go about cleaning it and how often?

Thanks for all your help!
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:05 PM   #6
 
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I need to move my spray bar to the end like you say. Do i need to make sure the holes stay under the water while I move it to avoid air pockets?
No.

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Also -- how do I go about cleaning it and how often?
You want to keep the water flow fairly free, and the more "stuff" that clogs the pads the less the water will flow. It varies with each tank, some of mine need more frequent rinsing than others. I do sometimes use the water flow as a guide, if it slows I rinse the media. Generally, 6 weeks to 3 months.

All you need to do is rinse the media. Disconnect the power (unplug it), close the valves and remove the head, then take the canister to the sink. Remove each part and rinse it. I use tap water because with plants you have no ammonia issue, but if you want to use a bucket of tank water, fine. The ceramic disks and bio stuff never needs replacing. The pads should be replaced if they start to lose shape as this will allow water to pass around and through them too freely.

The hoses themselves don't need rinsing as often as the media, but they should be done periodically to remove the gunk that collects inside.

It may have some sort of primer, my old ones don't. But whichever, if you almost fill the canister with water after replacing the baskets and pads, it will make restarting it much easier.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:13 PM   #7
 
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Okay.. so I had to prime it the first time by sucking on the end of the tube to get it going. I dont need to do that every time I clean it do I?

Thanks again for all the help. Its amazing how quiet this thing is.. I dont think I could ever go back to a HOB now..
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Okay.. so I had to prime it the first time by sucking on the end of the tube to get it going. I dont need to do that every time I clean it do I?

Thanks again for all the help. Its amazing how quiet this thing is.. I dont think I could ever go back to a HOB now..
No don't suck on the hose. Pull the intake hose apart from the hard plastic piece fill it full of water (make sure to close the valve before filling). Then put the hose back together. Take the output hose and put it in a bucket lower then the intake. If your intake is on a stand then put the bucket in the floor. Once you have done this open the value on the intake side and it should create a siphon and be going into the bucket. This is how I have to prime mine.
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