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post #11 of 31 Old 02-09-2012, 06:06 AM
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You miss my point. Ich or white spot is parasitic in nature, therefore, regardless of the status of the infected, your other fish will still carry them and ich will once again make a full blown appearance as your fish succumbs to stress-related factors.

I'll link you to this topic so you can read why your fish shoukd still be treated and why I suggested salt as an alternative.
White Spot, Ich ((Ichthyophthirius multifiliis) - Read information!

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post #12 of 31 Old 02-09-2012, 07:14 AM Thread Starter
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You miss my point. Ich or white spot is parasitic in nature, therefore, regardless of the status of the infected, your other fish will still carry them and ich will once again make a full blown appearance as your fish succumbs to stress-related factors.

I'll link you to this topic so you can read why your fish shoukd still be treated and why I suggested salt as an alternative.
White Spot, Ich ((Ichthyophthirius multifiliis) - Read information!
Cheers mate will look at that
Now omg just did a water change and got a mouth full of water been sick about 5 times anyone had this or just me.
What a d--k i am
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post #13 of 31 Old 02-09-2012, 07:18 AM
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LOL! Why not just get a cleaner that does not require mouth suction? A python I think? I dont live in US. Been there, done that but nothing harmful although it is still unsanitary.

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LOL! Why not just get a cleaner that does not require mouth suction? A python I think? I dont live in US. Been there, done that but nothing harmful although it is still unsanitary.
God its made me feel ill lol cheers for all your help
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I have to disagree with Byron on this one. Aggressive gravel vac is very important while using formalin/malachite green treatments for ich, as the medication's effecacy is dramatically lessened by the presence of organics. Yes, normally aggressive gravel vac is not indicated in moderately or heavily planted tanks. But in this case, heavy water changes with thorough gavel vac is as important as the medication.

Also, putting your tank into darkness while using formalin/malachite green medications can be very effective.

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I have to disagree with Byron on this one. Aggressive gravel vac is very important while using formalin/malachite green treatments for ich, as the medication's effecacy is dramatically lessened by the presence of organics. Yes, normally aggressive gravel vac is not indicated in moderately or heavily planted tanks. But in this case, heavy water changes with thorough gavel vac is as important as the medication.

Also, putting your tank into darkness while using formalin/malachite green medications can be very effective.

Here is the link to (arguably) the best site about Ich: Ich | The Skeptical Aquarist
We're not disagreeing...I was commenting in general, no reference to the medication which didn't even occur to me.

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I have to disagree with Byron on this one. Aggressive gravel vac is very important while using formalin/malachite green treatments for ich, as the medication's effecacy is dramatically lessened by the presence of organics. Yes, normally aggressive gravel vac is not indicated in moderately or heavily planted tanks. But in this case, heavy water changes with thorough gavel vac is as important as the medication.

Also, putting your tank into darkness while using formalin/malachite green medications can be very effective.

Here is the link to (arguably) the best site about Ich: Ich | The Skeptical Aquarist
That was a great article! Thanks for the link.


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post #18 of 31 Old 02-09-2012, 01:41 PM Thread Starter
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ph 7.6
Ammonia 0ppm
nitrite 0.0ppm
nitrate 20ppm

Did a test today and hope you all say its going well
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ph 7.6
Ammonia 0ppm
nitrite 0.0ppm
nitrate 20ppm

Did a test today and hope you all say its going well
Thank for the link to ink
Looks good. Could do a PWC with nitrates at 20ppm, but you're right where you want to be! Just don't do anything crazy like adding a bunch of fish all at once and you should be fine.


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post #20 of 31 Old 02-09-2012, 04:04 PM
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Agreed on doing a PWC, wait 24 hours after doing it and re-test your nitrate, you should find it has gone down to about 10ppm or less.

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