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post #1 of 6 Old 12-24-2011, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
Can't decide on what to do with new tank

Alright so I have a new 30g long tank (3ft long, 1ft deep and 16" tall). No matter what I do I would like to get fish and plants from the same general area on the world. I will have a black sand substrate and quite a bit of driftwood in the tank. Also the ones I list I'm not necessarily getting them all just ones I like. My ph is around 7.5 but I do not know the hardness. The three options are...

South east Asian
Grouami (blue, thick lip, or banded) or Paradise fish for the big centerpiece fish.
School of glass cat fish
school of zebra loach
school of pearl danio or school of a rasbora

South American
Bolivian ram or cockatoo cichlid for centerpiece fish
school emperor tetra
school or corys (julii or schwartz most likely)
school of hatchet fish
school of nean tetra
1 or 2 bristlenose plecos once the tank is developed

South east Asian nano
Celestial pearl danio
banded dwarf loach or kuhli loach
mosquito rasbora
all of these will be kept in large schools. I'm having trouble finding a centerpiece fish that could be kept with these.

I would do a south American nano if I could but most of the fish like a lower ph than what I have.

Anyway thats what I have come up with. I think a nano would be fun with a larger tank since I could get so many fish but I don't have a ton of options with nano species. Anything thoughts are appreciated though. Right now I'm leaning towards the S.E. Asian.
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post #2 of 6 Old 12-25-2011, 02:40 AM
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If you are leaning towards a south east asian tank, a good centerpiece fish could swordtales or maybe bala shark, red tail shark, or rainbow shark.
The only problem is that the bala shark might eventualy grow out of the 30 gallon, and the red tail and or rainbow sharks might pick on the celestial danio. Although, i have a couple of rainbow sharks in my community tank and they are very peacfull and mind their own business. They love swimming through the driftwood and picking the algae off of it, so if you are going to put lots of driftwood in the tank then there shouldn't be a problem with adding the rainbow or red tail shark in there.

Also you might want to consider adding some live plants because it will keep the tankmates more at peace with each other and the khuli loackes love to swim through them.
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post #3 of 6 Old 12-25-2011, 07:51 AM Thread Starter
I thought about the sharks but have read that the red tail can be somewhat aggressive and I won't be getting a bigger tank anytime soon so that eliminates the rainbow. I would like to try the shark but if I was to get loaches I couldn't keep them both so that's another hard decision haha. Lots of loaches or either one shark. Also swordtails are a south american fish although they could work out nice in the other tank if I decide that.
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post #4 of 6 Old 12-26-2011, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
Another question. Could I use this filter or would I need something bigger?
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post #5 of 6 Old 12-26-2011, 07:07 PM
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Paradise Fish is not recommended for community tanks, the Blue Gourami can be problematic as well. The
Thick Lip Gourami and Banded Gourami ( Pearl Gourami as well) are said to be better for the type of tank you describe.

As mentioned, none of the 'sharks' listed would work.

This size tank is probably too small for the Zebra Loach, but Dwarf Chain Loach could be an alternative.

You will need to determine your water hardness before deciding on your stocking though, as some of the fish you list will need soft, acidic water, others are more adaptable and the cpds need higher pH. If your water is soft it will likely acidify over time. If its hard most of the fish listed won't work and you will need to choose different fish or plan on providing soft water.

I've never used a sponge filter, but a lot of people use that filter with success.
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post #6 of 6 Old 12-27-2011, 01:41 PM
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I concur with Quantum on the fish. The Elite sponge will be fine in your setup; I use one of the dual Elites in my 20g and 29g, and would in my 3-foot 33g too if I did not have an old Eheim single sponge motorized unit in there [no longer available].

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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