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Buying a new aquarium
Old 01-30-2014, 01:23 PM   #1
 
Buying a new aquarium

Hi All,
This is a really great place and I have learned a lot just poking around in the last few days, thank you all for generously sharing your knowledge and experience!

I just got involved in the this highly addictive hobby at Christmas. My daughter wanted to get a GloFish, which I honestly thought was an iPod app.

Long story short(er) I got her a 5 gallon Aqueon Mini Bow with a built in filter, we added a $15 heater and we were in business. Three days later we had 5 dead fish and I finally started learning a little.

I found a local fish store with a nice patient guy who started my education. but what he told me was that he would not even sell me a 5 gallon tank for tropical fish and I should really get a bigger one.

He has a 29 gallon Aqueon tank, with filter and heater (It's an all in one box deal) he will sell me for $95.
It sounds like a good deal but don't want to buy this and then 3 weeks from now say 'Dang, I should have gotten a canister filter, or a better heater, or something else I am not smart enough to know I am missing right now. i don't want to say money is no object but I'm the kind of guy who will spend an extra $50 to get better quality if it makes sense.

Final details all you good people may need to help steer me, I think we would lik to keep some community fish and I'd like to consider some live plants if that would work.

Thanks in advance for your generous sharing of time and experience.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:39 PM   #2
 
Personally, I would rather piece together equipment than buy a kit. I bought my 10 gallon as a kit and I absolutely hate it. I've changed out everything but the lights so far and that is just because I don't know if I'm going to do high light or low light plants yet.

If I were you, I'd buy the size tank you need for the intended inhabitants, a separate heater, hood and filter. To get a good idea (not set in stone or 100% accurate) idea on what you can stock with what size tank and what kind of filter, check out aqadvisor.com

Are you wanting to stick to glofish or something else? Just a heads up that glofish are genetically modified and won't live as long as other fish. I think they are supposed to live 6 months if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:25 PM   #3
 
If you look on Craig's list you can get a 55gal with stand for less. Start large and build what you like. If you get a tank, get stones from a garden shop, cure your own driftwood and avoid spending a fortune. If you need a hand P.M. me. I can also help with stocking if you have a base isea of what you want.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:37 AM   #4
 
Thanks henningc and Flint, appreciate the comments.

To the larger tank, my wife is not keen on a bigger tank right now. A 20 gallon was the comprimise I am hoping to sell, I was trying to sneak in the 29 gallon as a good deal and hope she is OK with that.
I eventually would love to have a couple big tanks with some Angels and Oscars look pretty cool too!

But for now I think a 20 (or maybe 29) is about as big as I can get away with. I'm hoping once my wife sees these peacful and beautiful fish she'll get hooked too!

From what you both suggest it seems like any aquarium that doesn't leak is fine, I'll need a hood and bulb to support plants (did I read 2-3 watts per gallon?) A heater seems pretty straightforward, and then the filter.

Lot's of stuff on filters! Sounds like cannister is overkill for a 20/29. What about a sponge filter?
Or go in tank? Is there anything wrong with the built in filters. My Aqueon Mini Bows are super quiet but are they best for my fish? Realy not sure what's best.

To recap my semi formed plan, I was thinking of using pool filter sand and a few live plants. For fish, Glofish, with a few regular Danios, a few Rasbora and I like the Sunfire Platies, maybe a few tetras if I'm not overstocking. I am still learning and finding fish all the time so anything compatible that I have room for I guess.
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Old 02-01-2014, 06:53 PM   #5
 
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About filter i used to have a hang on back filter when i had a 20 gallon i worked just fine I don't have experience with canister filters but for what I know those are for bigger tanks I have a 75 gallons with a hang on back filter with no problems so you might be fine

Light will depend on the type of plants you want to get we have some low medium and high light plants lets place it this way if you get some java moss and some java fern and an amazon sword a medium light will work good they're low light plants but giving them that extra will boost them

on 30 gallons I would do a 36" light or 20 gallons will depend if it is the long version you can get a 24" fixture but don't place plants on the corners they won't get enough light or you can use two 18"bulbs one on each side since you're looking to have a few live plants not exactly a planted tank that may work make sure you get t8 bulbs that provide daylight 6500k(daylight)

your other option is led but on my own experience led to grow plants are kind of expensive maybe because I did the planted tank in the bigger that I have not sure for 10, 20,or 30 gallons

I'm also the kind person that would pay some extra to get better quality but at the same time I like to build stuff so I use a lot of "do it yoursef" stuff save some money work just fine if you want some ideas I would share you something

All that is my opinion what I would do I'm not an expert just putting my $0.02
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:18 AM   #6
 
I'm about to order a canister for my 10 gallon, so you could have a canister on a 29 no problem. They really are just better filters.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:38 PM   #7
 
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I'm about to order a canister for my 10 gallon, so you could have a canister on a 29 no problem. They really are just better filters.

I really thought they were made for the big tanks never seen one in something smaller than 55 gallons
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Old 02-04-2014, 06:40 AM   #8
 
You can use canisters on as low as 2 gallons, actually. I've seen it done. (:
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:11 AM   #9
 
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Hi All,
This is a really great place and I have learned a lot just poking around in the last few days, thank you all for generously sharing your knowledge and experience!

I just got involved in the this highly addictive hobby at Christmas. My daughter wanted to get a GloFish, which I honestly thought was an iPod app.

Long story short(er) I got her a 5 gallon Aqueon Mini Bow with a built in filter, we added a $15 heater and we were in business. Three days later we had 5 dead fish and I finally started learning a little.

I found a local fish store with a nice patient guy who started my education. but what he told me was that he would not even sell me a 5 gallon tank for tropical fish and I should really get a bigger one.

He has a 29 gallon Aqueon tank, with filter and heater (It's an all in one box deal) he will sell me for $95.
It sounds like a good deal but don't want to buy this and then 3 weeks from now say 'Dang, I should have gotten a canister filter, or a better heater, or something else I am not smart enough to know I am missing right now. i don't want to say money is no object but I'm the kind of guy who will spend an extra $50 to get better quality if it makes sense.

Final details all you good people may need to help steer me, I think we would lik to keep some community fish and I'd like to consider some live plants if that would work.

Thanks in advance for your generous sharing of time and experience.
I have done both bought a kit and also just tank and added my own filter,heater ect. I will say that a 29g kit at $95 sounds like a decent price. I know Aqueon kit for a 29g in pet stores sells for around $50-$60 more than that. I would personally pick up the tank during a Petco $1 gal sale and buy the accessories separately on line. JMO
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:21 AM   #10
 
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The petco 1$ per gallon sale is on where I live :D you don't get a lid though.
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