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Old 05-01-2008, 10:45 AM   #21
 
Sorry 1077, I didn't understand your post at all. It doesn't even seem to have anything to do with my algae problem.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:54 AM   #22
 
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First of all 1077, the problem here isn't the main tank and the maintenance/feeding schedules. The problem here is the tap water.

As for the filter medias, I have been using PuraPad for over 6 yrs now, since it first came out on the market.. both here and at the store. I have met and had a nice long visit with the guys who invented and make it, they're very nice and very informative. This product is safe in saltwater and freshwater, and it doesn't do anything funky with the water or the things it absorbs. The longer it is in the filter the better it works. The flow rate for what we're talking about doing here would be just fine if using a filter rated for 20 gallons. The water needs contact time with the media in order to clean it, and the more often it goes through the media during a 2 - 3 day period, the better shape that water will be in and ready to use on the tank safely.
I have seen PuraPad drop a nitrate level that was off the charts in saltwater, literally overnight to under 80, and within 3 days, below 20.
I have seen it drop nitrate and phosphate levels in large freshwater tanks, again, almost overnight... and with no ill effects. PuraPad is one of a kind, and by far the most advanced and effective filter media I've found yet. The list of what it removes from the water, such as silicates, phosphates, heavy metals, etc is much longer than for any other single product working alone.
Let's try not to be so discouraging, especially if it's about something we haven't used ourselves or know nothing about, ok?? The next closest filter pad that is this effective would be polyfilter, but that isn't safe to use long term. Polyfilter will remove too much if used long term, and is known to bottom out pH levels. The PuraPad won't do that. Anyone who's used polyfilter can attest to its effectiveness. Polyfilter is also more expensive and harder to find.

Togiran, I will suggest that you test the water in the bucket after 2 - 3 days of being filtered, just to be sure that your nitrate levels are down before using it. If the nitrates in your tap water are fluctuating, it may take a little longer to pull it all out when it's high. I am confident that PuraPad will do the trick on a nitrate level of 50 if allowed to filter for 72 hrs or more, and it will also remove the silicates that feed diatom algae, organics, etc.
Best of luck to you and let me know if you would like me to scope the algae for you.
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:02 PM   #23
 
I was thinking about the Pura Complete stuff. How does something like that work? Do you just pour it between the biofilter and the charcoal filter?
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:16 PM   #24
 
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For the Pura Complete you would need to use a mesh bag such as this:
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...s~vendor~.html

That's why I suggested the pad instead of the complete... it's easier, and the pads also work to filter out solid particles like standard filter bags would.
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:15 AM   #25
 
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Bettababy , Fair enough, and I apologize to both you and original poster.My fear was and is that many viewers of this forum would attempt to use quick fix product and possibly neglect proper maint. I fear I am old school and yes there are always products that can help and I have not used them all. I truly hope that product you mentioned helps the original poster. I may even break with tradition and try it myself.
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:23 AM   #26
 
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1077,
I am not a big believer in chemicals, including fertilizers and other such "additives" unless they are really needed. I prefer a natural aquarium, personally. The trick in trying to help in a place like this is that you can't assume anything about anyone. Everyone is different just like every situation is different, every tank is different. Not everyone knows the old school ways, and not everyone knows the basics. And not everyone has our favorite methods or products available to them.
All I ask is that you not jump to conclusions, assume, or other such actions when here on FF. Please read threads in full before posting an answer, too...
The threads we handle here at FF belong to the person who posts it, and that is the person we are here to help. If someone else needs help or has questions that don't directly pertain to the post or help with that post, we then start a new thread.
I can say, since I've been here almost since FF began, that most of the people around here already understand about doing the maintenance in place of using chemicals... but we are also very honest that when someone is cramped for time, money, or even a good water supply, such as this post... chemicals and filter medias are often a good solution or aid in getting someone through.
So, please come here with an open mind, and try not to get judgemental. Also, please make sure that the info you post is accurate. I noticed a post you put here earlier about the many products you seem to have a great dislike for... but your information was not entirely accurate. My husband and I were sorting through it tonight, and will sit down and post about it tomorrow when we have the time.
You don't have to be a fan of these companies and their products, but please don't bash them here, and please don't suggest to others that these things are useless. They are not useless, and can be a matter of life and death to someone's fish if they are afraid to use it based on 1 personal opinion about it. We try to bring accurate information to all posts here, and it keeps me and a handful of the others hopping sometimes... but compared to other forums found online, this is still one of the best.

Just another quick note, then I'm off to bed for the night. My husband, Rob, is the lead tech support for Kent Marine, All Glass, Oceanic, Zilla, and a number of other companies that have merged in the past few years. The head lab tech is a friend of ours, and we have detailed lab results available to us if we need them, and that is for any of the products from Central Aquatics. Your comments about the products earlier was offensive, to say the least. Rob spends a lot of time helping me here when it comes to one of his company's products, and he is able to provide tech support right here on FF when needed. Tell me another company who has employees who are that devoted? If you have questions about these products or problems with something, please... just ask!
We'll be back tomorrow night to clear up the misunderstandings in your previous post about the various filter medias you mentioned.
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:45 AM   #27
 
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Bettabay, I do read threads in full .The thread that precipitated my response indicated that nitrate from tap water was high. I believe i even suggested that original poster may wish to seek product to help CONTROL nitrates. I believe there ARE products that can help control it but have seen no evidence that would change my position in regards to removing it due to variables mentioned earlier. Let us say that tap water was not the problem and tank water was .Then the exhaustion rate of these chemical filter medias would in large part depend on maint. of the tank, how much food was being fed, and what type of fish were in the tank.while exhaustion rate listed for these productsmight be viable in a tank of tetras it could have less than desired effect in say ,a tank full of plecos or oscars. The way I see it ,it is Ok for you to solicit products that you have had success with yet you would take umbrage with some one who has had less than favorable results with other products. I will stand by the assertion that in MOST instances that... Properly sized and maintained filtration and generous regular water changes combined with vaccuming the gravel or substrate on reg basis, proper stocking, and not over feeding and MOST will have no need for products such as I railed on . As for for offending you or your husband ,I believe as you say ,that would best be suited for another thread. By the way ,How big a fella is he?
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Old 05-03-2008, 08:36 PM   #28
 
Just an update.

I bought an magnet scraper. It worked amazingly well. There is ton of algae all over the gravel, fake plants, fake logs and filter/heater/thermometer though.

Do you think I should just restart my tank over once I get the filter and stuff for my water bucket?
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Old 05-04-2008, 12:06 AM   #29
 
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If the only thing in the tank is a betta, then yes, you could start over if you wanted to.
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Old 05-04-2008, 02:10 AM   #30
 
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Want a simple way to get rid of algae? Try Algone, there is a sponsor link somewhere on the fourm and I have heard from many members that is so easy to use and they never had a problem with algae nor did it interfere with dosing nitrates and other needed fert for plants.
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