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Bright and fancy fish for a 20gallon?
Old 02-27-2014, 08:13 PM   #21
 
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Ah, I missed that one. Yeah, I thought Bosami rainbows were what he/she(SORRY!) meant and those would be too big, the blue-eyed rainbows are rather unique and awesome though. I've never heard of them before until you mentioned them...I like-y.

Are these the ones you mean, or another type(did I get the wrong fish? I've never heard of them before just curious!)? http://watershed3.tripod.com/gertrudae.jpg
They're pretty small, and if they don't mind taller tanks that'd be awesome.

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Old 02-27-2014, 09:16 PM   #22
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I got my API GH and KH test kit.

It took like ten drops for the kh test to change color and 20 for the gh test to change color. So that's 10dKH and the chart on the kit doesn't have 20 drops on it...

I like the rainbowfish, cherry barb, and pygmy cory idea that was suggested, though the pygmy corys prefer things to skew softer so that might be a problem.

And those three are okay with adult shrimp. I have two male shrimp that aren't red in the slightest that need to be separated from my red red cherry shrimp.

How many of each fish would I be able to put in? They need to be in groups but the websites I looked at kind of varied in how many friends these guys need. I would prefer to avoid putting them in the bare minimum tiny group but then tank capacity.

I looked at AqAdvisor and it suggested 5 rainbowfish, 5 cherry barbs, and 4 pygmy corys. But then said it was too much when I added the 2 shrimp.

My dad wants to add zebra nerite snails or some colorful snail because he thinks my olive nerites are boring but he likes the big snails.
The chart doesn't go up to 20 drops, but since each drop corresponds to 1 dGH the hardness of your water is 20 dGH. That's some hard water. Too hard for pygmy cories, panda cories, and spotted blue eyes. The cherry barbs are a good choice though. If you want a blue eye you'd be better off with some furcata as they need harder water.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:08 AM   #23
 
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Bettas CAN be kept in a community tank. I would worry more about other fish nipping fins than about the betta terrorizing anyone else.
Years ago I kept paradise fish, much like bettas but a little different. I had a male and three females in a 20h with no problems. Very beautiful, eye-catching fish.
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Old 02-28-2014, 12:25 AM   #24
 
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First off, where did you find the API GH and KH test solutions? >< I've been searching forever, do you have to order them? =o I had to use the water companies info for the GH, but that doesn't factor in any changes plants, wood and the like in a tank may change. lol
I ordered it off Amazon.

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Ah, I missed that one. Yeah, I thought Bosami rainbows were what he/she(SORRY!) meant and those would be too big, the blue-eyed rainbows are rather unique and awesome though. I've never heard of them before until you mentioned them...I like-y.

Are these the ones you mean, or another type(did I get the wrong fish? I've never heard of them before just curious!)? http://watershed3.tripod.com/gertrudae.jpg
They're pretty small, and if they don't mind taller tanks that'd be awesome.
Yeah the little ones. Pseudomugil gertrudae

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Aqadvisor gives you very conservative stocking limits - definitely a good thing considering who uses such a tool. That's not a bad place to start - from there you can add more if you feel it necessary. I would bump the cherry barbs up to 7 - 3 males and 4 females. It's important to have more than 2 males so that the one is not constantly harassed by the dominant male. Having multiple males also relieves pressure on the females since they will spend time sparring with each other, which is one of the coolest aspect of keeping these fish.
Ah alrighty.

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The chart doesn't go up to 20 drops, but since each drop corresponds to 1 dGH the hardness of your water is 20 dGH. That's some hard water. Too hard for pygmy cories, panda cories, and spotted blue eyes. The cherry barbs are a good choice though. If you want a blue eye you'd be better off with some furcata as they need harder water.
Darn my water... I like the fins on gertrudae better than furcata.


Though now I'm not sure what my third fish is gonna be if I can't have the corys.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:00 AM   #25
 
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Water that hard cries out for some shell dwelling cichlids on the bottom.
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Old 02-28-2014, 01:29 PM   #26
 
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Water that hard cries out for some shell dwelling cichlids on the bottom.
Their behavior seems interesting. I like the look of Lamprologus meleagris and Lamprologus ocellatus. Or should I go with the smaller Neolamprologus multifasciatus?

Is it possible to encourage them to dig only in certain parts of the aquarium? I want to put in a few rooted plants and I wouldn't want the cichlids digging them loose or something.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:34 PM   #27
 
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Ciichlids dig. Only way to stop them is with large stones. Large flat stones over the substrate in certain parts of the tank will limit them to digging only where you want them to. I stack Quarter sized flat pebbles at the base of my plants to slow down the cichlids, but they tear plants up. I would say only choose tough, fast growing plants, and be ready to replace uprooted and destroyed plants regularly.
Good luck, live plants really increase the beauty of any aquarium in my opinion.

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Old 03-02-2014, 03:58 PM   #28
 
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How territorial are Neolamprologus multifasciatus? Like is it in the area of their preferred shell or hating any fish it lays eyes on? It seems like most people keep them alone (though some of the set-ups were smaller aquariums too) and I saw a few people saying they will swim all over the tank sometimes rather than being mostly on the bottom with their shells. I don't really have much experience with cichlids minus this one time years and years ago I got talked into a pair of striped blue cichlids I can't remember the name of and they did nothing besides dig under a rock decoration to never come out with the exception of eating and murder.

I was thinking about 7 cherry barbs and 5 Pseudomugil furcatus with an undecided number of zebra nerites and adult not-red cherry shrimp, but then I need to rethink if the multies would beat the snot out of all of them but I don't want a single-species aquarium. Or maybe I should leave it at that since that's 12 fish already.
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Old 03-02-2014, 11:35 PM   #29
 
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Not sure how set you are on the current fish you're looking at, but thought I'd throw peacock gudgeons out there. I don't have a gh or kh test so don't know how hard my water is..I know we get limescale build up though. My peacock gudgeons are bright and healthy as far as I can tell. I keep them with neon tetras & pseudomugil gertrudae. :)
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