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blue water after adding beneficial bacteria
Old 09-17-2011, 12:29 AM   #1
 
Unhappy blue water after adding beneficial bacteria

hi i have had my tank for about a month now. i had an inch and a half oscar that died a few weeks ago and a needle nose gar that died the other day. i did not know i had to cycle my tank until after. i added beneficial bacteria to my tank and the next day my water was blue. i looked on the bottle to see if there was any methane blue in the mixture but i did not see it. also my tank was cloudy before that. i do not want my electric blue jack dempsey to die. someone please help me. i have also tested for nitrate levels and there was little to none. also, my ph level was at 7.0-7.2 the other day and has dropped to 6.0 and i do not know why. i add something to higher the ph but nothing happens

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Old 09-17-2011, 01:16 AM   #2
 
I would not add any chemicals to raise or lower your ph in the end it will probably cause a ph swing or crash. I would let it be.

Cloudy is probably a bacteria bloom not a problem.

What are you ammonia and nitrite readings?

Your going to need to do partial water changes maybe even daily depending on your readings of ammonia and nitrite.
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:36 AM   #3
 
but isnt a 6.0 ph level bad for my fish? my ammonia level when i got it tested was a little bit higher then being safe but i used something to lower it and it should be gone now. my nitrite levels are next to nothing. how long does it take for the bacteria bloom to go away and will it harm my fish? are my fish most likely going to live? and im guessing a 25% water change?
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:09 AM   #4
 
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Hello and welcome to TFK

First which bacterial supplement did you use? What were the levels of the ammonia, nitrites and nitrates in your tank before you added the supplement, and also what are those numbers now? What are you using to test your water parameters with? The cloudy water if it is a white haze than it is probably a bacterial bloom, this will not hurt your fish and should clear up within a few days.

As for the ph, have you tested what your tap water is? Also do you know what the hardness, general hardness and carbon hardness of your water is. The carbon hardness will determine the buffering capability of your water, and will determine if your ph will drop or not. For more information on hardness and ph read the following article http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-73276/ As said by k19smith using chemicals to adjust the ph of your water can cause a lot of problems. It is actually more stressful for the fish to have the ph constantly changing than to be at a stable ph that may be out of their range. Once we know what your carbon hardness is, this will help in knowing the best way to go about adjusting things, which should always be done naturally. For finding out the hardness of your water you should be able to get this information from your local water people. Most places now have this information available online, if you can not find the information online than I would suggest calling them to ask for the information.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:00 AM   #5
 
my bacterial supplement is nutrafin. my ammonia levels were around .40 mg, nitrites were around 0, nitrates were were around 0. i can not get my ammonia tested right now because i do not have them strips. i usually go to the pet store to get that tested but u have been using something to rid it of my tank. i would say thats almost gone. my nitrate is still at 0, my nitrite was around .75mg. my hardness was around 100 to 150, my alkalinity is at 0 or a little bit above if that helps and my ph is around 6.0. my cities water said it is moderately hard if that helps. my test strips is called 6 tests in one strip quick dip.but i still dont know why the water went from cloudy white to cloudy blue.
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Old 09-17-2011, 11:58 AM   #6
 
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Please don't jump into trying to fix this or that all at once. Various issues are at work here, and require time to sort themselves out. Rapidly fluctuating water chemistry can harm all fish and kill some outright if not down the road due to internal issues.

First on the water colour. This is not serious. Some water cycling aids do cause a blue hue. By "Nutrafin" do you mean their product "Cycle"?

Second, cycling takes time, no matter how it is done. Regular water changes are essential for the health of the fish if ammonia or nitrite rise above near-zero. Daily if necessary. The effects of ammonia and nitrite poisoning are significant even at very low levels.

Third, the pH is tied to the alkalinity (bicarbonate hardness) of your source water, which you say is near zero. So normal biological actions in the tank will cause the water to acidify and the pH will lower accordingly. Leave this alone until the cycling issue is resolved. A more stable pH is much more preferable than one that fluctuates because this can harm the fish more. You can read about the hardness/pH relationship here:
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...quarium-73276/

And, welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

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Old 09-17-2011, 12:56 PM   #7
 
yes, i do mean their product cycle, when i chanege the water do you want me to vacuum the gravel too?
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:19 PM   #8
 
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yes, i do mean their product cycle, when i chanege the water do you want me to vacuum the gravel too?
On the gravel, I used to say no, but since then I've learned that it makes no real difference. So yes, I would just run the siphon over the surface, don't dig in, to remove bits laying on the surface of the substrate. This helps to avoid overwhelming the bacteria initially.

It's been many years since I used Cycle and can't remember if it added a blue hue to the tank; I don't think so, but they may have changed it in the intervening 15 years since I last used it. Have any other substances gone in the tank, other than Cycle and water conditioner? And which conditioner?

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Old 09-17-2011, 02:50 PM   #9
 
i used an ammonia detoxifer called kordon amquel plus and the water conditioner is called api tap water conditioner. i also used a strees reliver called aquatic stress relief but that was when i first got the tank about a month ago
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Old 09-17-2011, 02:53 PM   #10
 
oh and i also used api super ick cure because one of my fish had ick. but i havent used it in about a week. and when i woke up and my water was blue i did not add any ick cure a few days before that. the ick cure does have a methane blue in it but i dont see how it would change my tank water 3 or 4 days later. but it says the carbon filter should turn your water to its regular color anyway
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