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Old 01-29-2013, 06:37 PM   #11
 
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Sorry for the delay in replying! I can read but cant log in on my phone so this was my first chance! I will answer from the earliest down.

Yes they are in the same tank as the new and old neons (200l - roughly 55gal). I have never seen them like this before and being some of my oldest fish, they have experienced the addition of more or less everything else!
I cant really test during the day, I can morning and evening but thats it. All four are bronze cory. I am waiting for the store to get more in so I can make it up to 6, they haven't had any in a while but are hoping to get some in the next month.

They had a water change Sunday (before new fish) and I tested then and I tested when I noticed the problem yesterday and there is no Ammonia, no Nitrite or Nitrate. Thats why I tested for everything else! I was planning on adding air when I put my new filter in as the new one doesnt pump air, I have a bendy bubble bar but no pump yet - Question, If I get a pump with 2 outlets but only use one outlet for now - will I loose pressure in the outlet I do use? and will the one I dont use make a noise?

Yes they have been in the tank since the beginning (around 9 months) they are bronze cory. I noticed the fast respiration for the first time yesterday evening. They are still at it now and are unusually sluggish almost weak. I'm not here throughout the day so I dont know if they have been the same all day. Ammonia is at 0, Nitrate is 0, Nitrite is at 0.
New fish include 12 neon tetra and 4 Dwarf neon rainbowfish, all added Sunday afternoon.
I added a new filter a week ago (running alongside my old one for now) but I dont think it would be that. No new decor in a long time.
The only thing going in the water is API StressCoat+ and the occasional dose of greenaway (not done for weeks).

I think thats everything, Thank you for all the help! :)
One thing stands out, the "greenaway." I looked this up as I am not familiar with it, and it seems to be some type of water clarifier for clouody water. Is that it? This is not good with fish, and corys always suffer from these products. Do a major water change, 2/3 of the tank, using just a conditioner ASAP. The corys cannot take much of this. It clogs their gills, or it is the chemical, or both.

The Stress Coat might add to the problem here, so at the water change do not overuse it; I know you need it for the chlorine/chloramine, but just enough for the new water.

I won't consider disease from the new fish, which is always a possibility, because I think the above is the problem. But if the water change does not ease the fast respiration, let us know. And you should see this within an hour or two, and the corys should be more active, by which I mean not frantic but just moving around more than simply lying on the substrate. Lethargy coupled with rapid respiration in a cory is always a sign that something is in the water, be it ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, chemicals, medications, whatever. A major water change is the solution.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:22 PM   #12
 
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The green away product is for when you have green water, it causes the algae particles in the water to 'stick' together until they are so heavy they sink then they can be vacuumed up (or eaten by something)

I haven't put any in for weeks now, I must have done 2 major cleans since the last time (the most recent being Sunday)
I will change some water now and I will do more tomorrow, see how things go.

Thank you! :)
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:04 PM   #13
 
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The green away product is for when you have green water, it causes the algae particles in the water to 'stick' together until they are so heavy they sink then they can be vacuumed up (or eaten by something)

I haven't put any in for weeks now, I must have done 2 major cleans since the last time (the most recent being Sunday)
I will change some water now and I will do more tomorrow, see how things go.

Thank you! :)
Not likely that then, though I still would not use it. The W/C can't hurt. This may be a protozoan that came in on new fish.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:40 PM   #14
 
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You know they seam better already!! I must have changed 60L, will do more tomorrow - just to be sure. I know they can be sensitive, I have baby molly due (all the time - without warning) so I try not to put anything in there unless I have to. But we had a water main break and they had to bring in tankers full of water from another area and pump it into the water system and that caused a massive amount of green algae for some strange, unknown reason! All fixed now so we are back to normal!!

I didnt put any fish store water in my tank although something could have clung to the fish/net. I will give a progress report tomorrow! Thank you Byron you probably just saved their lives!! :)
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:23 PM   #15
 
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I found the problem!! The new Dwarf Neon Rainbowfish are bullying them! :(
Poor things, two of them have big chunks bitten out of their tails!

New question: What do I do now?!

Thanks guys!
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:45 PM   #16
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I found the problem!! The new Dwarf Neon Rainbowfish are bullying them! :(
Poor things, two of them have big chunks bitten out of their tails!

New question: What do I do now?!

Thanks guys!
I missed that you added those as well as the tetras, didn't mention them in your other related thread either. The profile recommendation is 6 or more... not that I would expect them to be aggressive but in too few numbers, who's to say what they may do?

Unless you are stuck on wanting the rainbows, I'd suggest seeing if you can return them and add more corys... a herd of corys would be much more fun than a few rainbow fish any day. Adding more rainbows MIGHT fix this but certainly there is no guarantee, in fact I might bet against it.

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:28 PM   #17
 
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They wern't related to the other issue so thats probably why I didnt mention them (neons are up to 20 and very happy now by the way)
The rainbow fish are currently in a group of 4 (1 male 3 females) they didnt have anymore females last weekend so I'm going back tomorrow to pick up two more females. Or I might get 4 more (1 male 3 females), see how it goes.

There is still no word on more bronze cory they said maybe Tuesday. There is another store I could try but thats considerably farther away! How many cory could a 200l (55gal) tank support? I mean food wise, they get wafers and pellets at the moment but I dont want them to go hungry! There are some beautiful white/cream spotty cory at the store but if I get 6 that would take me up to 12 cory (with my 2 new bronze ones)

I can move the rainbows temporarily since they are still small then re-introduce them if you think that may help? But they were last in so I dont know if that will change the pecking order any!

I can always take them back as you said if it comes to that.

Thanks again!
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:38 PM   #18
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They wern't related to the other issue so thats probably why I didnt mention them (neons are up to 20 and very happy now by the way)
The rainbow fish are currently in a group of 4 (1 male 3 females) they didnt have anymore females last weekend so I'm going back tomorrow to pick up two more females. Or I might get 4 more (1 male 3 females), see how it goes.

There is still no word on more bronze cory they said maybe Tuesday. There is another store I could try but thats considerably farther away! How many cory could a 200l (55gal) tank support? I mean food wise, they get wafers and pellets at the moment but I dont want them to go hungry! There are some beautiful white/cream spotty cory at the store but if I get 6 that would take me up to 12 cory (with my 2 new bronze ones)

I can move the rainbows temporarily since they are still small then re-introduce them if you think that may help? But they were last in so I dont know if that will change the pecking order any!

I can always take them back as you said if it comes to that.

Thanks again!
If you returned the rainbow you could probably go to 12 cory, that would be a nice number for them. Obviously you want the rainbow fish... I'd at least tell the store what is up and ask if you can return the whole lot if it doesn't work out... gives you options. Re-tanking them, adding to the numbers then later putting them back in might make a difference... but personally I'd wouldn't chance it.

Others may have some other ideas.

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Old 02-01-2013, 01:49 PM   #19
 
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The stores are pretty good, you can take almost anything back and get 80% of the price back in store credit. I would like to keep them but not at the cost of my cory's happiness!
I've been quite lucky until now and everybody had gotten along with eachother!

Thank you for the advice, I'll look if I can find anymore info about this behavior on google! :)

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:02 PM   #20
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The stores are pretty good, you can take almost anything back and get 80% of the price back in store credit. I would like to keep them but not at the cost of my cory's happiness!
I've been quite lucky until now and everybody had gotten along with eachother!

Thank you for the advice, I'll look if I can find anymore info about this behavior on google! :)

-Kelly
This has nothing to do with experience but from everything that I have read (yah, BS filter on high gain) my gut tells me that if these guys have already started to nip fins, there is a very low probability of them stopping, or even if they do there is a high probability of starting again during some other stressful time.

I have watched my tank very closely for this as I have 12 barbs with a betta... fin nipping from the barbs was a real concern and bullying from the betta also a concern. I got very lucky and don't see either. Now the betta sleeps with the catfish, which is cute as they all look like they are cudding together beside the driftwood.

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