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post #11 of 17 Old 11-26-2008, 10:52 AM
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yep, the yellow tea color is from the driftwood. Good for fish who like what they call, tannin stained water. But the color would probably go away with time, after water changes and such.
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post #12 of 17 Old 11-26-2008, 01:49 PM
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The badis will very likely need live foods, such as live worms, but the puffer could as well. I've had dwarf puffers that wouldn't touch frozen food and would really only eat live blackworms and their mainstay, live pond snails. Others would only eat frozen if it was moving and appeared alive.

Even if you end up with a pair of badis, a 3g tank is not going to be enough room for them to raise their fry. Unless you are prepared to set up a second, larger tank to raise the fry to selling size, I would recommend you only get one fish.

The dwarf puffer will definitely eat or at least kill ghost shrimp or cherry shrimp, and I would suspect the badis might as well.

Both fish are intolerant of poor water conditions. This means cycling the tank completely before adding either species and maintaining a good water change schedule to keep nitrate levels down.

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The badis will very likely need live foods, such as live worms, but the puffer could as well. I've had dwarf puffers that wouldn't touch frozen food and would really only eat live blackworms and their mainstay, live pond snails. Others would only eat frozen if it was moving and appeared alive.

Even if you end up with a pair of badis, a 3g tank is not going to be enough room for them to raise their fry. Unless you are prepared to set up a second, larger tank to raise the fry to selling size, I would recommend you only get one fish.

The dwarf puffer will definitely eat or at least kill ghost shrimp or cherry shrimp, and I would suspect the badis might as well.

Both fish are intolerant of poor water conditions. This means cycling the tank completely before adding either species and maintaining a good water change schedule to keep nitrate levels down.
I've read that scarlet badis are social. Do you think one would do OK all by himself? That sounds so sad to me, but maybe I'm anthropomorphizing. From what I am seeing, it seems like a puffer should do better than a badis when kept alone.
I can do water changes, and like I stated originally, I am cycling the tank now. I certainly don't want endanger these little guys, so I will wait as long as it takes. I am just nervous about getting a fish that's super sensitive & killing it immediately. I have an Ammonia Alert as well as ammonia, nitrite, and pH test kits. I should know within fifteen minutes if there is an ammonia issue, and I was thinking I might test the nitrites daily for the first couple weeks. If I get the tank cycled & I do the appropriate water changes, will I be able to chill out a bit? Or am I going to drive myself crazy over either of these fish?
Do you know of a more suitable fish that one might find interesting? These seem to be the most commonly recommended for small aquaria. Originally, I was thinking White Clouds & a shrimp, but I got distracted by the pretty, shiny fish. (Also, I don't know if I could put the White Clouds in a group big enough to make them feel comfortable without exceeding my tanks capacity.)
Am I over-thinking this or is this normal for a first-timer?
Haha, thanks for your help.
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post #14 of 17 Old 11-26-2008, 10:52 PM Thread Starter
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Also, are those the numbers from LOST?
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post #15 of 17 Old 11-26-2008, 11:07 PM
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Yes, those numbers are from Lost. (I hope it's okay that I took the liberty of an answer away from you, Batman). You're not over-thinking it. It's normal "thinking" for a first timer to the hobby. At least normal for someone who is going to take the hobby seriously, gather knowledge and provide their fish with the best possible care.

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post #16 of 17 Old 11-26-2008, 11:17 PM
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It's definitely normal, but don't be discouraged. Honestly, even the most sensitive, "difficult" fish are pretty easy to care for so long as you meet their specific care requirements. "Hardy" fish can survive sub-optimal conditions that would really only ever come about if you were a big slacker about your tank maintenance. So, as long as you're doing research like this before you jump right in, you're on the right track.

One more thing: if you do get the puffer, pond snails are pretty much an essential part of its diet. Before you buy the fish (if you do decide to go for the puffer) make sure you can secure a snail source. A friend with a snail infestation or even a LFS with a snail infestation works. Before I had a tank in which I could breed pond snails, I just picked up a bunch of them every week from the local Petsmart. They couldn't get rid of them themselves and had no idea why anyone would want them, so they'd give me bags for free. You can also breed them yourself. A 1 gallon container with an airstone that gets water changes on a regular basis and is fed with just about any sort of organic material would serve as a great snail breeding tank.

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Thanks guys!
Yay for LOST. :)
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