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from bad to worse... 7 fish down, one day
Old 01-10-2012, 07:56 PM   #1
 
from bad to worse... 7 fish down, one day

so, my common pleco, my bumble bee cat, a fancy guppy, and 4 ghost shrimp that i just got today, all dead. i went out today to bring back my glass cat and my neon tetra that just died yesterday to petco, and brought back 4 ghost shrimp and a clown pleco, did a 80% water change and took out all the slate rocks that i had boiled and put in, and during taking the water or and such, i found my bumble bee cat and my guppy down and out. i then put the water in and everything and let the tank settle, tested it, put the new fish in with bags, came back 20 min later, late them out, and now 3 or 4 hours later, my pleco and my shrimp are all gone. my ammonia test just finished, its .5 ppm, my strips came back with all my nitrites 0, nitrates 0, everything perfectly fine. what in the world am i doing wrong? im taking trips back to the pet shop almost weekly. i started to set up my 55 today and then went up and found more dead fish, its looking like im better off selling all my stuff then continueing it. is there anything i can do? this is just absolutly redic im pulling my hair out and everything.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:18 PM   #2
 
Ok first stop buying fish and everything since your aquarium is not cycled
a reading of 0 nitrate is not good since it indicates that you have no bacteria present to change your ammonia intoo nitrite then to nitrate, all of them are toxic to fish but nitrare is way less toxic so can be in greater concentration in the water 20 ppm and up means you need to do a water change but befor i go too far!
here you have to read this http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-cycle-38617/
then if i were you i would choose the fishless cycle wich involves no risk to your fish and less stress to you!
dont hesitate on coming back with questions that is what we are here for :)
I am only a beginner but will try and help you the best I can :)
I have a healty aquarium and fish since im on this forum so dont panic take a step back be patient and you will be rewarded :)
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:25 PM   #3
 
its not even im like oh yea lemme buy more fish, its just that one dies and im like ok bring it back and they say you can only trade back fish for fish no money bla bla BULL S#@$ and i would loveeee to do a fishless cycle now that iv learned about it, but i have fish :( i dont want to leave them in bags for weeks at a time or something because this obviously is the worst thing to do haha. i dont know anyone that i can have the fish stay at while my tank cycles. if i had all the stuff for my 55 then i would just hurry that thing up but i dont :'( im not really worked up, just pissed that my gf's telling me bout how im a horrible fish keeper because my fish are dropping like flys. and then she starts talking like she knows something, but its just her repeating things that i talk to my self about lmfao ohhhhhhh what am i's to do :'(
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:34 PM   #4
 
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its not even im like oh yea lemme buy more fish, its just that one dies and im like ok bring it back and they say you can only trade back fish for fish no money bla bla BULL S#@$ and i would loveeee to do a fishless cycle now that iv learned about it, but i have fish :( i dont want to leave them in bags for weeks at a time or something because this obviously is the worst thing to do haha. i dont know anyone that i can have the fish stay at while my tank cycles. if i had all the stuff for my 55 then i would just hurry that thing up but i dont :'( im not really worked up, just pissed that my gf's telling me bout how im a horrible fish keeper because my fish are dropping like flys. and then she starts talking like she knows something, but its just her repeating things that i talk to my self about lmfao ohhhhhhh what am i's to do :'(
Ask them if they will keep a tab of the store credit towards fish for you. That way you can cycle your tank AND THEN you can go redeem your credit.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:40 PM   #5
 
ya know, i think that when i go back tomorrow with my bag full of deads, ill ask them about that. this is just insane
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:49 PM   #6
 
And if you really cant have a store tab and want to make sure you dont loose your fish they are some products you could be using first of is prime but you could be using alot of it, or els Am guard is good you need tiny amounts to make ammonia none toxic and is safe for cycle , just for nitrite you will need to use about 3 to 5 times depending on the load the amount of am guard,you will also need to use this each 24-48 hours, also products like stability witch seeds bacteria and said to be faster could help you. live plants are the way to go tho
you want live plants that grow fast and for this you need a good substrate good lights and some type of nutrients like seachem comprehensive or under gravel tablets
plants , if in enough quantity will first of all have bacteria all over them to help the cycle but secondly and mostly absorb ammonia and nitrate
and also make sure you have plants that are easy to care for since some plants can be hard to grow, and also make sure the plant you buy is actually an aquatic plant some LFS will sell plants that normally live partially or totally out of water and those will rot away prety quickly, and make a mess :)
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:00 PM   #7
 
i have alot of plants, one bannana plant, one hornwot whih im pretty sure grows rapidly, and a hole lot of some other kind of plant that the girl at petCo aCtually pulled out of her tank Cus it was starting to grow too muh, she was going to give them to the store but just gave tehm to me instead. i also have some bamboo stems i took off of a bamboo plant i have in my house.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:01 PM   #8
 
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You might have to suck it up and consider it part of the cost of learning....the hard way. It would be better to take the loss in money rather than to continue torturing these fish to death. Cut your losses, start your fishless cycle and be patient, and when the time is right, add fish and rest easy knowing you did it the right way and everything will be ok from there on out.

I would avoid buying a bunch of chemicals and quick fixes because in the end, they could be more harmful than helpful and you'll end up spending more money on that junk then you would loose by not getting new fish. This is of course if they don't extend you some credit. Ask to speak to a manager and see if they can give you credit on a gift card. Explain the situation and hopefully they will understand.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:03 PM   #9
 
as depressing as it is, this seems as the only way :(
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:35 PM   #10
 
all i have to say is if you killed a pleco something is serously wrong and you dont need to be adding fish lol
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