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post #21 of 51 Old 01-17-2013, 06:52 PM
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Okay. Home Depot carries one on the floor called "For Well Material Inc"....never heard of it. They dont take anything else out until April so ill take my business elsewhere

Lowes has two types of Quickrete sand in. One is called "All purpose sand" and the other is "Play Sand"

I assume the play sand is the one I should buy? $7.18 for a 44lb bag is pretty good. I will grab 2-3 plus a bucket to clean it in as my buckets are to small
Yes. When they do the sand packaging they run the sand through the equipment after having cleaned it from the concrete products and the first run goes into mortar sand. The next run might be the general purpose stuff and the last run is the playsand only after the testing shows no concrete stuff in the sand.

Definitely always buy the play sand.

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post #22 of 51 Old 01-17-2013, 07:05 PM
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Well, as far as how much sand you need, I used 100lbs of sand for my 75 gallon. I have maybe 1-2" deep bed.

Your filter intake shouldn't be so close to the sand. It will suck up the sand and possibly destroy your filter. You can either place a large smooth rock inbetween the filter and the sand or fit the intake tube right inside a shot glass.

I've seen videos of people adding sand to their aquariums with their fish in the tank. My betta was also in his 5.5 for about 12-24 hrs while his sand settle. He was not a happy camera sitting in his cup for the 1st 12 hrs.

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post #23 of 51 Old 01-17-2013, 07:34 PM
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In my experience, the cloudiness doesn't affect fish.

I'd remove the fish and their heater, remove the gravel, turn off the filter, add the washed sand, turn the filter back on, and return the fish. My fish were removed for less than an hour, and not a sngle loss.

Thats how I did it- I dont know if its perfect, but I had no problems.

Yes, use play sand.

When you think its washed enough and the water is clear, you're half done. Keep washing.

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When you think its washed enough and the water is clear, you're half done. Keep washing.
I wish my husband would of listened to that. :P
But I guess a tank cloudy for 3 days wasn't too bad.

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Yeah I figured I would just use my smaller bucket and rinse a small amount of sand so that way I can assure its clean. May take 6 buckets of sand for the two larger tanks but I would rather it be really clean then risk losing fish. I can pack it down and add the water slow so I dont stir up as much sand.
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post #26 of 51 Old 01-17-2013, 07:57 PM
When i did sand in my tanks I had a packet of this de-clouder chemical. It basically bonded up the finest particles clouding up my tank to make them bigger and then my filter sucked it all up and I had clear water within 2 hours. I did a 50% water change before adding fish and haven't had anything bad happen. Not sure what the declouder thing is called but you should be able to find it in stores or similar products in stores.
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Yeah I figured I would just use my smaller bucket and rinse a small amount of sand so that way I can assure its clean. May take 6 buckets of sand for the two larger tanks but I would rather it be really clean then risk losing fish. I can pack it down and add the water slow so I dont stir up as much sand.
Two bags will give you sufficient for all the tanks previously listed. You don't want more than 2 inches overall depth.

I found that washing small amounts is easier. I place no more than 3 measuring cups of sand in a pail, then rinse that about 6-7 times. "Rinse" means filling the pail with water, swishing around the sand, then tipping gently so the sand itself does not come out. By the 6th rinse you will be able to see the sand at the bottom of the pail full of water, before swishing it around. You can do more rinses, with a smaller tank that is not so bad; I last did my 115g which had two full bags of sand which was a lot of work.

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silica quartz (redundant term to be honest)
not necessarily, all quartz is silica, but not all silica is quartz

there is a specific reason that the silica free sand is used as playsand in sandboxes
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not necessarily, all quartz is silica, but not all silica is quartz

there is a specific reason that the silica free sand is used as playsand in sandboxes
Regular exposure to Silica dust can cause a disease like asbestosis (silicosis I think), so some companies make silica-free sand... which also means they can take off the "California says this causes cancer" label.

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exactly, and the 'silica free' play sand is usually CaCO3, so not suited for most freshwater tanks, whereas the quartz playsand is nearly ideal
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