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post #11 of 37 Old 06-12-2012, 05:11 PM
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No probs.

As for plants suggestions, are you really looking into a central american biotope? If so stuff like that four-leaved clover doesn't fit into the biotope 'cause it's originally a european plant. If you're going to be unfussy I think that opens up your options quite a bit. You could get some Java moss and attach it to that big piece of bogwood for example, or float some brazilian pennywort which also works well when planted into the gravel.

Why don't you just check out the profiles that have been compiled by senior members here? Lots of info, tells you how much light is needed, water parameters (hard or soft, pH), rate of growth, and so on...

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post #12 of 37 Old 06-12-2012, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
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No probs.

As for plants suggestions, are you really looking into a central american biotope? If so stuff like that four-leaved clover doesn't fit into the biotope 'cause it's originally a european plant. If you're going to be unfussy I think that opens up your options quite a bit. You could get some Java moss and attach it to that big piece of bogwood for example, or float some brazilian pennywort which also works well when planted into the gravel.

Why don't you just check out the profiles that have been compiled by senior members here? Lots of info, tells you how much light is needed, water parameters (hard or soft, pH), rate of growth, and so on...

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I was definantly more fussy about origin of the plants when I started this project but I've come to the point where I am much more interested in appearance and compatibility. I agree that adding some java moss to the bogwood would look excellent and would have a very tropical feel to it. I defiantly want some Pennywort now and I think it might look best in the back right corner in front of the heater. I will have to do some more research on plant species

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post #13 of 37 Old 06-12-2012, 05:55 PM Thread Starter
So I think for plants I am going to do
- water sprite (but to be honest I think it is ugly and would like an alternative)
- chain sword
- brazilian pennywort
- java moss

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post #14 of 37 Old 06-12-2012, 06:42 PM
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First, the light is fine. A single T8 tube over a 10g with a good tube (daylight around 6500K) will be sufficient for the plants.

For plants, Brazilian Pennywort would be nice floating since this is a South American theme. Corkscrew Vallisneria does very well in harder water so that is a good plant. The pygmy chain sword should manage. Java Moss on the wood, fine. If you get all of these, they will soon fill the tank.

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First, the light is fine. A single T8 tube over a 10g with a good tube (daylight around 6500K) will be sufficient for the plants.

For plants, Brazilian Pennywort would be nice floating since this is a South American theme. Corkscrew Vallisneria does very well in harder water so that is a good plant. The pygmy chain sword should manage. Java Moss on the wood, fine. If you get all of these, they will soon fill the tank.

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Alright I am glad to hear the lights are alright. I think I will plant the pennywort in the corner and let it grow across the surface. Should I avoid the pygmy chain sword because you made it seem like it might not do well in hard water.

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Alright I am glad to hear the lights are alright. I think I will plant the pennywort in the corner and let it grow across the surface. Should I avoid the pygmy chain sword because you made it seem like it might not do well in hard water.
Should be OK, this is not too hard. No personal experience, I only have had soft water.

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Should be OK, this is not too hard. No personal experience, I only have had soft water.
Would a similar species of plant be better adapted to hard water? Something like a dwarf sag?

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post #18 of 37 Old 06-13-2012, 12:41 AM
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Just as a point of reference, I have pretty hard water at 16 dGH, 10 kH, between 7.5 and 8 pH, and my pygmy chain swords are growing pretty rapidly. They're sending runners everywhere, producing little plantlets that I think will be covering the substrate pretty soon, and it hasn't even been a month since I planted them. I think you'll have no problem growing them if your water is similar to mine.

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post #19 of 37 Old 06-13-2012, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Just as a point of reference, I have pretty hard water at 16 dGH, 10 kH, between 7.5 and 8 pH, and my pygmy chain swords are growing pretty rapidly. They're sending runners everywhere, producing little plantlets that I think will be covering the substrate pretty soon, and it hasn't even been a month since I planted them. I think you'll have no problem growing them if your water is similar to mine.
Oh excellent they are very pretty plants after all. By the way I have been doing some more research and I came across a plant species known as staurogyne repens. It seems like it might do well in my tank. What do you think?

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That's a new one to me, but from what I can find on it I wouldn't mind trying it myself. It is not easy to get South American plants in this form, resembling a Hygrophila, so this is interesting.

Here's some info from Tropica, the Danish aquatic plant nursery:
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They give a light requirement of .25w per liter which is roughly 1 watt per gallon, so that would be moderate.

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