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post #11 of 33 Old 03-09-2010, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
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i only put 2 doses in the water the ph now is 6.6 im not putting the stuff in anymore. Should i check it tomorow and see how it is?
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post #12 of 33 Old 03-09-2010, 11:10 PM
Using the API chemicals are only a temporary fix - and shakey at that....

My best piece of advice is this -

find out all you can about the water you plan on doing water changes with (tap water, bottled - whatever) - the pH, gH, kH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate levels.

Find a fish that meets that match - that is what you should buy - and NEVER TRUST THE FISH STORE!

As a beginner (which I am) using all those chemicals gets way to complicated and time consuming. Unless you are getting hard core - I say make lemonade and go with a good fit - otherwise you will be in for a world of headache.

best of luck to you ~ cheers
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post #13 of 33 Old 03-09-2010, 11:18 PM Thread Starter
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all my other levels are good im leaving the ph around 6.6 if i buy fish from there fish tanks with 7.4 ph and put them in my tank wit 6.6 will anything happen?
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post #14 of 33 Old 03-09-2010, 11:47 PM
Its all in how you aclimate them

There are many ways but one - DON'T just float the bag and dump them in.

The way that was taught to me was this (someone please add or correct me)

1. Float the bag 20 minutes,
2. open and put water from your tank into the bag
3. float it again 20 minutes watching for any signs of distress,
4. put water from your tank into the bag again (might need to secure it with something at this point it might not float - I usually hold it)
5. wait 20 minutes again - as long as there is no distress then
6. net the fish out of the bag into the tank and discard the water in the bag (never put a fishstore's water into your tank - you are asking for lots of disease or even snails).
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post #15 of 33 Old 03-09-2010, 11:50 PM Thread Starter
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ok ill try the water from the tank thing. I know about putting store water in the tank.
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post #16 of 33 Old 03-09-2010, 11:55 PM
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What I do as instructed was roll the top of the bag down a couple inches making a collar.
Float bag for 30 minutes. Every 5 minutes add about 2 oz of water from your tank into the bag.
Do this until you approx. double the original water in the bag.
Pour the water from the bag after 30-40 minutes thru a fish net over an empty container
to net the fish and put them straight in your tank from the net.

This keeps the pet store's water out of your tank which you don't want anyhow.
The fish are well acclimated to your water and slowly. It allows the water temp in the bag to acclimate slowly to your tank water reducing stress.

This is what was told to me and this is what I've done with success. Hope that makes sense since I have my head up my rear, so I've been told. But it works.

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post #17 of 33 Old 03-10-2010, 12:49 AM Thread Starter
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should i do a water change and use tap water then use amquel after?
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post #18 of 33 Old 03-10-2010, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dwayne wade View Post
all my other levels are good im leaving the ph around 6.6 if i buy fish from there fish tanks with 7.4 ph and put them in my tank wit 6.6 will anything happen?

Assuming (always a bad thing) that the aquarium has (cycled) and ammonia and nitrites are zero each day all day,and you have Nitrates around 20 ppm up to 40 ppm Then I would acclimate the fish SLOWLY to your aquarium with one of two methods.

(1) Turn the lights off on the aquarium (less stress), and float the bag holding the fish for twenty minutes in your aquarium to allow them to adjust to the temperature. Then open the bag and either roll the top of the bag down three or four times like you might do with your socks ,and this should allow the bag to float upright in the water. or you may clip the bag to the side of the aquarium with some type of clip ,perhaps a large binder clip used to hold paper files,or maybe a clip such as those used to clip a bag of potato chips closed.
Next add approx 1/2 cup of water from your aquarium to the bag every four minutes.
Once the bag is near full,, carefully dump half the water from the bag taking care to do this over a bucket so as not to accidentally dump fish down the sink. Then ,,once again add about 1/2 cup of your aquarium water to the bag of fish every four minutes until once again, the bag is near full.
Then carefully net the fish from the bag of water and release them into your aquarium. Dump the water from the bag and or bucket down the sink .Do not add water from the bag or the bucket to your tank.

(2) This method requires that you gently empty the bag of fish into a CLEAN bucket that has not been used with chemicals (cleaning)or soap ,and tip the bucket so that the fishes are covered with water.A small block of wood placed under the bucket works well ,or a brick .
Then take a section of airline tubing approx three feet long, and tie a regular knot or perhaps two,, halfway down or near the middle of the tubing.
Then ,,stick one end of the tubing in your aquarium, and the other end should be in the bucket holding the fish. You then must suck on the end of the airline tubing from the bucket until water from your aquarium,begins to travel down the tube into the bucket holding fish.
You don't want a steady stream of water ,but a Dip,Drip,Drip, from your aquarium to the bucket holding the fish. If water is being drawn out too fast,,tighten the knot'(s) until you acheive the drip at approx three to four drips per second or two.
Once the water in the bucket is nearly as much as was in the bag of fish,,carefully dump about half of the water from the bucket,and once again allow the Drip,Drip,Drip.to again fill the bucket to where there is just as much water as was in the bag of fish originally.
Then carefully net the fish from the bucket and place them in your aquarium. Then dump the bucket of water down the sink.
This method can take anywhere from forty minutes, to a couple hours and I would recommend an hour minimum. Just keep allowing the water to drip,drip,drip,and when the bucket has more water than the bag of fish held,,dump half and repeat. Might also cover the bucket with a towel during the process to help keep stress to a minimum ,and to prevent fish from jumping out depending in large part on the depth of the bucket .
Would also recommend that lights in the aquarium be left off for the first 24 to 48 hours to allow the fish to adapt, and would not feed fish for the first 24 hours. New fish ,,trying to adapt to new surroundings,often refuse food and you don't need any excess waste laying about in the tank.
Perform weekly water changes of 25 to 50 percent,don't over feed the fish.don't overstock the tank. don't add too many fish at once,and Good Luck.8)

The most important medication in your fish medicine cabinet is.. Clean water.

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post #19 of 33 Old 03-10-2010, 11:59 AM
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Dwayne, you have not yet answered my questions from a prior post, namely, what is the pH and hardness of your tap water?

This is absolutely critical. There is no point in adding fish from the store with a pH of 7.4 to your tank with a pH of 6.6 only to have your tank go up to 7.4 with the next water change. And this all depends upon what your tap water is. First you must stabilize your tank.

Please do not start adding fish to this tank until we have sorted out your water parameters. Flucutating pH and hardness is extremely stressful on most fish, and some will be killed outright.


Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #20 of 33 Old 03-10-2010, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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I cant test my hardness of the water i dont have that test my ph of the tap water is 8.2 wit high range ph and 7.6 with the regular ph chart on the api freshwater master test kit. Which one do i go buy?

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