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API liquid ammonia test question
Old 08-08-2012, 06:04 PM   #11
 
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I agree not to fuss over the ammonia.

As for nitrates, we're beginning to see where they are coming from. Some in the tap water, perhaps some from the excess fertilizer, some normally from the fish and organics breakdown. And the nitrite in the tap water is a concern.

Flourish Tabs according to Seachem contain no nitrate, and will only release nutrients as needed by the plants. So they say on their website. But whether or not there might be something from so many, who knows.

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Old 08-08-2012, 06:14 PM   #12
 
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That API Ammonia test is always the same for me too, it NEVER looks like the colour for 0ppm, looks slightly greeny. I just take it as 0ppm as it never gets there, and my tank is 8 months old. I guess the only explanation is that it is maybe registering a slight trace of ammonia before it gets chance to be converted by the bacteria, or used by the plants. there must be a point where ammonia is present, even in fully cycled tanks. Although it must be converted quickly. Probably wrong about this aspect, but just a thought. I wouldn't sweat it, as long as the colour doesn't go anywhere near the other green colours on the chart you should be fine. I stopped worrying AGES ago about this very subject.
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I agree not to fuss over the ammonia.

As for nitrates, we're beginning to see where they are coming from. Some in the tap water, perhaps some from the excess fertilizer, some normally from the fish and organics breakdown. And the nitrite in the tap water is a concern.

Flourish Tabs according to Seachem contain no nitrate, and will only release nutrients as needed by the plants. So they say on their website. But whether or not there might be something from so many, who knows.
I hadnt worried about the nitrites, should I? Tank always tests 0 nitrites.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:18 PM   #13
 
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I hadnt worried about the nitrites, should I? Tank always tests 0 nitrites.
With sufficient fast-growing plants, plus the Nitrospira bacteria, it should be OK. But .5 nitrite, if that was accurate, is something to keep an eye on. I would get the water changes back to a regular once-weekly change.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:39 PM   #14
 
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BTW, they were API Rootabs.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:40 PM   #15
 
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Yes, it is the best match. I believe the nitrate problem started after the rootabs. I got complacent and hadnt tested for a while. I noticed glancing the day after the rootabs. Thats when I tested and found high nitrates. That day I vacuumed the tabs out and have been cleaning the muck daily since then. The nitrates have gone down but since Ive been doing daily wcs that could be causing the nitrate drop.When I get the filters to stop spewing muck when turned on after feeding, I'll know for sure if the tabs caused the mega-nitrates. Im adding plants as I can.Thank you.
Do you still have the packaging for those roottabs? Does the box list the composition? Or go to the website of the roottabs manufacturer and find the page about roottabs... See if there's a significant quantity of nitrates. That's just what sounds right to me now, but who knows, the nitrate has to be coming from somewhere. Are you missing a fish? Probably a good idea to vac the whole accessible substrate just to make sure. And if you haven't finished the filters, wash the whole things including the intake tube. You can do a micro-water-change any time.

I can't think of anything more atm. If the roottabs are the source of the nitrates, maybe it takes a few times through the clean filters - they sounded overwhelmed. Another reason to vacuum the substrate. Btw, don't forget the impellers/motors
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:48 PM   #16
 
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BTW, they were API Rootabs.
That might be significant. Other members have had issues with these too. I just went to API's website but they do not list the nutrients [I always worry when this happens--what is so secret???] but only say it has iron and "essential nutrients" and one of my plant sources mentions it contains N [nitrogen] so this may well be as nitrates, since it is more unlikely to be ammonia or nitrite.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:52 PM   #17
 
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Hi everyone, I hope you all are having a better day than what i have experienced today.First off, i lost my female molly in my 10 gal that i assumed was cycled!! NOT. As thats not enough, i decided to put a API root tab in my 30 gal. Never used them before, will never use them again! It immediately turned my water so nasty i could not see my fish!! This tank was crystal clear. I am so upset. I grabbed the vacume and stuck in gravel and sucked up the muck from the tab and did a 50% wc. Then i notice i have NO hot water because the hot water heater was turned off! Something was nagging at me not to use the tabs but i did anyway. My plants seemed to be a little yellow, thats why i was trying them. I only put 1 but i think it may have been a mistake with my UGF that is still in there. Is there any fertilizer that does'nt do that? Thanks for listening everyone, just had to vent a little!! Well got to go, kitty decided to eat too fast and just threw up!!! urgh!"

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I am using Seachem Flourish Tabs sparingly and they're very hard and apparently don't come apart.

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Old 08-08-2012, 07:03 PM   #18
 
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"API root tabs,NO MORE!
Hi everyone, I hope you all are having a better day than what i have experienced today.First off, i lost my female molly in my 10 gal that i assumed was cycled!! NOT. As thats not enough, i decided to put a API root tab in my 30 gal. Never used them before, will never use them again! It immediately turned my water so nasty i could not see my fish!! This tank was crystal clear. I am so upset. I grabbed the vacume and stuck in gravel and sucked up the muck from the tab and did a 50% wc. Then i notice i have NO hot water because the hot water heater was turned off! Something was nagging at me not to use the tabs but i did anyway. My plants seemed to be a little yellow, thats why i was trying them. I only put 1 but i think it may have been a mistake with my UGF that is still in there. Is there any fertilizer that does'nt do that? Thanks for listening everyone, just had to vent a little!! Well got to go, kitty decided to eat too fast and just threw up!!! urgh!"

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I am using Seachem Flourish Tabs sparingly and they're very hard and apparently don't come apart.
I went to web site for API root tabs and under metals it lists arsenic, mercury and lead.
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:09 PM   #19
 
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Do you still have the packaging for those roottabs? Does the box list the composition? Or go to the website of the roottabs manufacturer and find the page about roottabs... See if there's a significant quantity of nitrates. That's just what sounds right to me now, but who knows, the nitrate has to be coming from somewhere. Are you missing a fish? Probably a good idea to vac the whole accessible substrate just to make sure. And if you haven't finished the filters, wash the whole things including the intake tube. You can do a micro-water-change any time.

I can't think of anything more atm. If the roottabs are the source of the nitrates, maybe it takes a few times through the clean filters - they sounded overwhelmed. Another reason to vacuum the substrate. Btw, don't forget the impellers/motors
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No missing fish, I have been vacuuming gravel and have taken ear swabs to the impellers and motors. That stuff is thick and everywhere. I didnt find nitrates on the web site but I dont believe it. That has to be the source. API root tabs have arsenic, lead and mercury. Maybe some fish like that stuff. Thanks for helping.
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:09 PM   #20
 
From Somewhere Else:

"Flourish Tabs contain very little NPK, but plenty of trace elements. API Root Tabs contains a fair amount of NPK, especially N, but no trace elements other than a lot of iron. "


I'm very ignorant when it comes to the ins and outs of fertilizing. However, I think NPK stands for Nitrogen, Phosphoros, and Potassium. Nitrogen stands for a Nitrogen-bearing molecule, of which the above information says there is a lot. This could be NH3, NH4, NO2, NO3 (nitrate), or something else, but I think the ones I mentioned get into the Nitrogen cycle at one point or another. I kind of think that all the brown junk is from clay that was holding the roottab together.
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