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Old 01-28-2011, 09:51 PM   #1
 
Anyone have an idea.....

hey everyone..... Well, our new tank (56g) is on cycling day 5 and we are now seeing cloudy water, although all chem levels are good. Some say it is the ammonia bloom, although the ammonia level is almost non-detectable on the Jungle Tree test strips....so, this brings me to my reach out for help.

We added two fish about 48 hours ago after checking all levels. One fish added on day 3 (gold w/ black) and the other added on day 4 (black moor). Within a short period of time a whitish substance begun to form on their bodies, especially around black moor eyes. We are perplexed as to what this may be, so I have added pictures to further clarify. Fish were added only after safe levels were reached and to help establish a safe environment before introducing more "friends". At first, the newly introduced fish were very active and swimming everywhere, now they remain relatively in one place and act lethargic. We did add stress coat in accordance to total gallons of tap water used when filling the tank.

If anyone has an idea of what may be happening, your help is greatly appreciated. Also, the cloudy color is on day 4 now and I am hoping it is just a cycling issue and the fish shed whatever may be affecting them now. I have heard of ICK, but no reason as to how it may have been introduced to a new tank less than 7 days old.

When we filled the new tank, we did add two gallons of water from our old tank in hopes to buffer the bacterial eco system on advice from a friend.

So, in a nutshell...that is where we are now. Hoping that someone may have an idea of what is happening with the fish in our new tank. Thanks much in advance for your time and insight, much appreciated. Pictures are of both fish in the new tank and the tank itself....
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Old 01-28-2011, 10:52 PM   #2
 
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welcome to the forum!

you added the fish waaaayyyy too early! the cycle isntl complete and therefore a bacteria ecosystem hasnt been fully established. Gold fish create a great amount of waste and therefore will pollute your water greatly. i suggest removing most of the fish before they all die. hope all goes well ^^
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Old 01-29-2011, 03:25 AM   #3
 
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Blax is right that goldfish are heavy waste producers and as such, can create some havoc in new tanks.

Have you gotten any readings above zero on any of your tests? Knowing more about exactly where your readings are and have been will help diagnose the problem. It's also worth mentioning at this juncture that test strips can be frighteningly unreliable. I'd make an investment in an API Freshwater Master Test Kit soon. It's liquid drops and much more accurate.

Finally, that does look like Ick, but I can't say for sure. The photos aren't super sharp and the water clarity makes it even harder. It's possible it's been introduced from the old water you mentioned adding, or from the store itself. We'll see what others have to say.
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Old 01-29-2011, 01:20 PM   #4
 
Thanks burns....just ordered the API master kit off amazon.com for $25.95 (free shipping). We are using a Fluval 305 canister filter and it came with a 3 tier filter bucket system.

Top Tier: Ring type ceramic media (both sides)
Middle Tier: Ring type ceramic media one side, carbon one side
Bottom Tier: Carbon only

I have researched the Marineland Diamond blend ammonia remover media compared to just straight carbon. Any thoughts? The Fluval 305 is running "stock" right now. I am still getting schooled on everything and wow, this forum is an awesome place to get an education. Cheers!
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Old 01-29-2011, 02:02 PM   #5
 
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In this case, ammolock would be a great idea. (don't worry about the more expensive stuff, you only need to use ammolock for a few weeks until the tank cycles).

Ammolock doesn't remove ammonia, it just converts it to ammonium.. So it won't affect the cycle, but still protects your fish.

Also, change the water 30% IMMEDIATELY, and do 30% daily until you get a nitrate reading and nitrite/ammonia are both 0.

Otherwise, your fish probably won't make it.
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:49 PM   #6
 
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I'm not the biggest fan of chemicals like AmmoLock and whatnot. But what's been said is technically correct. You should use it (if you want) until the cycle is confirmed and then stop.

The water change suggestions fit in with what I meant when I was a bit vague saying to "keep up with your water changes". It's just going to be touch and go for a while. Keep up the spirits.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:46 AM   #7
 
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Blax is right that goldfish are heavy waste producers and as such, can create some havoc in new tanks.

Have you gotten any readings above zero on any of your tests? Knowing more about exactly where your readings are and have been will help diagnose the problem. It's also worth mentioning at this juncture that test strips can be frighteningly unreliable. I'd make an investment in an API Freshwater Master Test Kit soon. It's liquid drops and much more accurate.

Finally, that does look like Ick, but I can't say for sure. The photos aren't super sharp and the water clarity makes it even harder. It's possible it's been introduced from the old water you mentioned adding, or from the store itself. We'll see what others have to say.
Not ich. The production of slime coat was in response to irritation of the presence of two toxic substances, ammonia and nitrite. Unfortunately, both your oranda and black moor are reacting badly to unstable nitrogen cycle.

What are the water parameters currently? Use the API liquid kit to get the results. No test strips.

No more stress coat crap. The fish will have a hard time breathing through the excess slime coat that could settle around their gill area. At this point, I suggest adding table salt (no yellow prussiate of soda included). A teaspoon per gallon will do it to neutralize the poisoning effects of nitrite (which is quite possible until you test for traces).

Ammonia is also more toxic at higher pH. Determine your ammonia and pH and correct the ammonia by doing water changes until they fall back to zero. To be able to know the ammonia toxicity in correlation with pH, check this link.

Ammonia Toxicity
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:16 PM   #8
 
I just set up my tank as well and the day after I put my fish in my tank got really really cloudy. It was so bad I couldn't even see my fish. But I just kept doing my water changes and let my filter go and about 5 days later my water was crystal clear again :)
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