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post #21 of 31 Old 02-06-2009, 07:44 PM
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I hear lots of people say not to clean their gravel during a cycle. All I can say is that in all my tanks I cleaned the gravel the best I could during my fish cycles. I still had great cycle times on all the tanks. I personally felt I did not hurt my cycles by over cleaning. I guessing it could be a huge debate on what you are actually removing when you clean your gravel and would be hard to prove what way actually works best.
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post #22 of 31 Old 02-06-2009, 08:27 PM
I think you are supposed to vaccuum only half or one third of the gravel?
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I think you are supposed to vaccuum only half or one third of the gravel?

Yeah, that is where my confusion comes in. The reason you are only supposed to vacuum one third is that you are leaving the other two thirds with the beneficial bacteria needed. If you vacuumed all of your gravel, you run the risk of a mini cycle. So I guess the question is wether you are doing more good than harm by vacuuming....

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post #24 of 31 Old 02-07-2009, 08:42 AM Thread Starter
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This ams levels before water change were
NH3-- 0 or 0.25!!!!! Finally!
Nitrite 0.5 or 1.0
Nitrate 40

Plan to do another good 50% water change, vac 1/3 gravel, add 50% salt, add prime as directed. Ugh.

On a lighter note, wish there was a way to "anchor" my onion plant the the floor of tank, silly fish keep digging it up.

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post #25 of 31 Old 02-07-2009, 08:48 AM
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Food and detritus in the gravel decays and produces ammonia. Bacteria convert that ammonia into nitrites then other bacteria convert those nitrites into nitrates. You remove nitrates with water changes. Removing nitrates has no effect on your cycle. I recommended cleaning the gravel because gunk gets into it decaying and making more ammonia. Since he's cycling with fish, and a lot of them, it's important to get that gunk out so it doesn't make more ammonia.

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post #26 of 31 Old 02-07-2009, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks TY for explaining in simpler terms!
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post #27 of 31 Old 02-08-2009, 04:33 AM
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40ppm NitrAtes isn't harmful for fish but lower readings are always desireable. Consistently high NitrAtes are usually a result of overstocking,overfeeding,or both.

The most important medication in your fish medicine cabinet is.. Clean water.
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post #28 of 31 Old 02-08-2009, 09:21 AM Thread Starter
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GM! This ams levels before water change were
NH3 -- 0
Nitrites -- 0.5
Nitrates -- 40

Am I heading in the right direction? I hope, and think so. Any rhyme or reason to NH3 being zero, while nitrites/ates are still high? Does NH3 go down first and the rest follow?
Thinking positive, vacation coming soon, hoping tank levels are nml before I go.

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Things are looking alot better! It is normal to see NH3 drop to zerro before nitrites. Looks like you are close to having a cycled tank again! The only thing that removes nitrates is water changes, so you will not see nitrates lower on their own.
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Yep, you're close to being fully cycled. 40ppm Nitrates isn't bad, it's not good but it's not bad. Just strive to keep the aquarium at or below that level and you're fine.

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