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Old 08-11-2011, 10:29 AM   #11
 
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thats my thought .. if you rinse it at this stage you will kill off anything that had started to populate the filter...
Thanks, makes sense! I might try buying some new filter media and just sticking it in the tank to populate it while its cycling and replace it with that one when I put my fish in so I can start new and not stall the cycling process.

And thanks reece, its been soaking for about a week now and it seems to stay on the bottom on its own now!
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Old 08-11-2011, 10:33 AM   #12
 
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I would be surprised, I bought it from the local fish store, and it was a new piece of wood so it was completely dry when I purchased it. Maybe sludge isn't the right word.. the driftwood is covered in what feels/looks like almost a clear algae-like film, which is kind of slimy.. But what is in the filter does look like sludge, its brownish color and feels kind of slimy to me!

My roommate keeps saying he likes how, "post-apocolyptic" my tank looks...

Can you post a photo of the wood with this "film"? It doesn't sound good to me.
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Old 08-11-2011, 11:05 AM   #13
 
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Can you post a photo of the wood with this "film"? It doesn't sound good to me.
Just looking online and I think it is white hair algae as it looks like this-

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/at...1&d=1242787789
(not my picture)

its pretty slimy to the touch and when I take the driftwood out it is kind of translucent.
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Old 08-11-2011, 11:07 AM   #14
 
Oh, and I also think this is whats building up in my filter media..
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Old 08-11-2011, 11:20 AM   #15
 
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Thanks, makes sense! I might try buying some new filter media and just sticking it in the tank to populate it while its cycling and replace it with that one when I put my fish in so I can start new and not stall the cycling process.

And thanks reece, its been soaking for about a week now and it seems to stay on the bottom on its own now!
Glad to help out :)
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:18 AM   #16
 
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Just looking online and I think it is white hair algae as it looks like this-

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/at...1&d=1242787789
(not my picture)

its pretty slimy to the touch and when I take the driftwood out it is kind of translucent.
That looks like fungus to me, and it can be highly toxic depending upon what type it is. I had some on that Mopani wood (in the photo it is Mopani) and it killed some fish.

I can't track down the thread for that photo, can you post me a link to it? I'd like to see if they call this algae or fungus.
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:55 AM   #17
 
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That looks like fungus to me, and it can be highly toxic depending upon what type it is. I had some on that Mopani wood (in the photo it is Mopani) and it killed some fish.

I can't track down the thread for that photo, can you post me a link to it? I'd like to see if they call this algae or fungus.
white hair-like algae

Theres the link-
It actually isn't really white like the one in the photo- the woman at the lfs said it wasn't uncommon and should go away after a couple weeks. I attached a photo of it i took on my phone, had to pull it out of the water because theres so much tannins in the tank that you can hardly see it when looking in. Feels quite slimy to the touch and in the tank it is almost hairy looking.

the tank is still cycling and won't be occupied for another month.

One last question- I'm going away for a couple weeks, and hopefully the tank will be cycled by then- can I leave it cycled and fish less for a couple weeks or should I have someone put ammonia in it to keep it cycled while I'm away?
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:11 PM   #18
 
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now this may just be me and i could be over reacting.. but if that is your tank in that pic these are the steps i would follow.... again just me though

get rid of the wood
empty tank
clean it all really really good with hot water (no soap)
and start fresh with out the wood
your water looks like chocolate milk and i would be super concerned ..

i hope some one will say something better my friend but that is how i would address it at this point while you dont have any losses...
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Old 08-12-2011, 12:56 PM   #19
 
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First on the link, that's good, thanks. They are calling it fungus, not algae as I suspected. But I do not agree with their assumption that it is harmless. I know from personal experience that some fungi from Mopani wood is toxic. I added one smallish branch of Mopani to my 90g and within 2 days this "fungus" appeared; simultaneously, I had cloudy water that clearly stressed the corys in particular they were respirating very fast and became agitated, until I pulled the wood out and changed 75% of the tank. After scrubbing and boiling the wood, I put it in a tank of water (no fish) for 3 months; no fungus, so I put it in my 33g with fish; it seemed fine for a few weeks, then suddenly fish were dying and I discovered a patch of fungus again, so i tossed the wood. We had a coupe other threads a while back on Mopani wood fungus, and Dawn [bettababy] who is highly versed in this, more than I am, noted that some types of fungus are deadly and the wood should be discarded rather than risk the fish.

To your photo, I agree this does not look quite the same, but I also agree with bearwithfish that the wood in the photo looks bad, as does the water. I would get rid of this wood. It is just not worth risking fish (eventually).

We don't know where this wood comes from, by which i mean, we can't be sure what it may have been exposed to at some point during its life. Years ago I started losing fish in my 115g, and tested for everything imaginable without success. Then a biologist suggested I remove the wood and do a major water change; end of problem. It took a total tear-down of the tank to remove the "toxin" that had leeched out from a huge chunk of reddish wood and obviously collected everywhere--gravel, plants, filter media. But the problem was gone with the wood.

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Old 08-12-2011, 01:05 PM   #20
 
Thank you for the advice, will be said letting go of the wood but I agree its not worth it-
Any chance I could try boiling the wood or would this not help?

Thanks again for the advice-
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