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Ammonia spike in my tank, help!!!!!!
Old 12-22-2011, 07:52 PM   #11
 
okay...was your water green with algae before you fired up the UV device?
I mean UV kills algae and micro sized organisms - it won't turn clear water brown. It can turn green water brown, but if your water was green after only 4 weeks, something is way wrong and we need to uncover and solve the root cause of the problem.

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Old 12-22-2011, 07:58 PM   #12
 
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The water in my tank hasn't been green since I set up the tank. When I set up the tank I placed a bunch of mystery and ramshorn snails along with some plecos and other algae eaters in the tank.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:28 PM   #13
 
Well, heck of a mystery - UV light doesn't turn clear water brown.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:09 PM   #14
 
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Yeah, I'm confused as to why that happened but ill just do the water changes for a couple of weeks and ill monitor the water with the UV thing on.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:26 AM   #15
 
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Thanks. Actually, I'm a bit surprised that the OP has green algae water after only 3-4 weeks with a new tank. I guess we might conclude that the lights are on too long and/or some other negative such as over feeding/excess detritus or insufficient water changes may enter into the equation here?

I have never used a UV sterilizer either. I tend to think that some algae growth, like having some snails, is a very good thing, but I have never been over-run with algae or had green water either. In theory, I suppose a UV sterilizer, in addition to 'cleaning' green water, could minimize or prevent fungus and parasite like critters in the water column. We'd likely agree this could be a good thing if the evil got past our other defenses.

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Yes UV sterilizer's have their purposes.
As I understand them, they are said to work a bit more proficient, with slower flow to allow more contact time with UV bulb.
Makes me wonder sometimes about Fish stores that say,, that their tanks water is treated by UV as it races through central system that feed's a row ,or several rows of tanks but Perhaps after several passes through,, the offending organisim's,pathogen's,pest's, are tired,, and can't get back up.
I too would look at lighting/organic solids, in that order and expieriment with less of both, to see if green water,algae, became less of an issue if that's why I was considering UV .

Some folk's,, convince themselves that they need R/O,UV, for it bring's them comfort, and or somebody else told them they need it .
Same with pH adjusting potion's, powder's, salt, CO2, Medication's .
All of these have a purpose if one understand's how they work.
Somewhere along the way while learning,, I discovered that plain old tapwater ,dechlorinator,and water changes aloowed me to keep quite a few species of fishes, and often times negated the need for much extra expense or effort.

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Old 12-23-2011, 01:13 AM   #16
 
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Yeah, I'm confused as to why that happened but ill just do the water changes for a couple of weeks and ill monitor the water with the UV thing on.
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Again, without knowing How many Angelfish, and now Pleco's in the mix, I would feel comfortable with the 50 percent water changes daily for now and reduced feeding's .
I would see,, that no one else is feeding the fish that i did not know about?
Could be the tank is/was,, very nearly there with respect to establishing healthy bacteria population, but the waste from number's of fish,possible excess food,snail's,, albeit on smaller scale,,are hampering the bacteria's capabilities in such a young tank.
UV sterilizer maybe killed off some bacteria,algae, on wood or elsewhere and caused bloom of same, not sure how UV would distinguish between good /bad bacteria for I am happily ignorant of their Use.
If tank is holding more than a couple small juvenile plecos, or smaller variety of Pleco(s), and or more than a half dozen small, quarter size angelfish ,water can go south fairly quickly in young tank, and considering the growth of fishes mentioned,,the 50 percent water changes are perhaps something to get used to for these will need to continue at perhaps once week as the fishes grow.
Plant's would help with water quality considerably, but depending on species of bottom feeder's selected,,could make keepping plant's rooted in substrate difficult, and would therefore limit plant's to those attached to woodor rocks. IMHO.
Would not add any more fish to this tank for a couple month's were it me, (But it ain't)
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:00 AM   #17
 
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Yes UV sterilizer's have their purposes.
As I understand them, they are said to work a bit more proficient, with slower flow to allow more contact time with UV bulb.
Makes me wonder sometimes about Fish stores that say,, that their tanks water is treated by UV as it races through central system that feed's a row ,or several rows of tanks but Perhaps after several passes through,, the offending organisim's,pathogen's,pest's, are tired,, and can't get back up.
I too would look at lighting/organic solids, in that order and expieriment with less of both, to see if green water,algae, became less of an issue if that's why I was considering UV .

Some folk's,, convince themselves that they need R/O,UV, for it bring's them comfort, and or somebody else told them they need it .
Same with pH adjusting potion's, powder's, salt, CO2, Medication's .
All of these have a purpose if one understand's how they work.
Somewhere along the way while learning,, I discovered that plain old tapwater ,dechlorinator,and water changes aloowed me to keep quite a few species of fishes, and often times negated the need for much extra expense or effort.
I might just try keeping Discus without the UV filter and see how it goes but I'll keep up with the water changes for now like you suggested. I won't be getting any new fish for a while until the tank settles down. All the angel fish died except one and the tank is planted. I have around 5 or 6 plecos in the tank but only one is big while the others are juvies.
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