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Old 01-09-2010, 10:24 AM   #11
 
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Probably no ammonia in the tap water then, but doesn't hurt to test it again just in case.

I would continue to monitor things (fish behaviour), use the conditioner and ammo-lock with a pwc. Unless nitrites occur or fish show stress, I wouldn't over-do the pwc.

B.
The ammonia was still very hight last night. The fish seem ok, but I think the Tetras could look a little happier. The tank is a little bit cloudy. I noticed with this tank when I first set it up, it was real cloudy from the Flourite that got stirred up a bit when I was setting it up, but after 24 hours it was crystal clear. I found it odd that it never got cloudy when it went up a bit in ammonia and dropped back to zero (before I got the other three fish), because I think I remember tanks in the past getting a little cloudy as it was cycling....but can't remember how long into the cycle though. This tank is now getting that slight cloudy look. Is this a good thing? Meaning that it is trying to build up bacteria? It has never shown any nitrites on the strip but does show some low nitrates. The cloudiness is not real bad but noticeable. The tank is still cloudy this morning. I hate taking the ammonia readings. When it shows the high ammonia I cringe even though the Ammo Lock must be keeping the toxicity in control. I am sure the fish will act even better once it has completed the cycle. I need to take the reading this morning. If the fish look about the same....not noticeably stressed....should I not do the water change? I do know that fish can sometimes be stressed without major signs. One minute they can look ok, and then the next have a major problem and dead shortly thereafter.

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Old 01-09-2010, 03:46 PM   #12
 
Hey holly, i have the same kind of issue right now too. I have done quite a few things to try and keep my fish alive, so far it has worked. I have kept my PH low 6.5~ so that the ammonia would mostly be ammonium automatically. I have talked with the fish expert at the LFS and she told me about the Seachem brand "stability" product, that has worked pretty good with helping to kick start the cycle. I was using the ammolock as well, I know that was keeping my fish alive because I have had readings of 8ppm and above for several days even over a week. The tank got real cloudy, as I understand this is a bacteria bloom, so I did not want to do a WC and take out the BB that was blooming, per the LFS expert. Made cents to me. Also, I had nitrite that was going up, so I switched to Amquel+ that removes all of that harmful stuff and my fish showed me that it worked well by becoming more active and less stressed. Now my tank water is getting clearer on it's own and My ammonia (ammonium) levels are coming down and I have no nitrite levels too. Also, I bought the seachem ammonia meter that sticks to the inside of your tank and gives a constant reading, that measures "free ammonia" I'm guessing that that means it does not read ammonium. Now my free ammonia levels are almost in the safe zone (between .05 & .02ppm).
Mostly you have to just hold on to your armrest and let it cycle, but there are several things you can do to keep your fish alive, you just have to find a way to do it. As long as they stay alive and the tank cycles I feel you are a winner.
I do not disagree with the WC method, but as far as I have heard the BB also live in the water, not just on stuff. I kind of wish I would not have done so many WCs because I think my tank would have been done cycling if I would have only done one per week or so. Not sure though. As mentioned at the outset, I have done several things to keep them alive. Actually, I have lost some because of the PH swing that I had due to too many WCs and too much water being changed that I wasn't able to keep the PH constant. This is the only exception to the statement that I made about the methods working to keep my fish alive. Anyway, I hope you can keep them all alive one way or the other.
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:39 PM   #13
 
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Hi,

Thanks for your response. :) I will respond tomorrow. I am just to pooped to be on the computer tonight. I hope things are going better for your tank. The update on mine is in my other thread regarding "needing fast advise". It was a big relief for not only the fish to get out of that tank for now, but also me! It messes me up.

I will check back tomorrow.

~Holly

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Hey holly, i have the same kind of issue right now too. I have done quite a few things to try and keep my fish alive, so far it has worked. I have kept my PH low 6.5~ so that the ammonia would mostly be ammonium automatically. I have talked with the fish expert at the LFS and she told me about the Seachem brand "stability" product, that has worked pretty good with helping to kick start the cycle. I was using the ammolock as well, I know that was keeping my fish alive because I have had readings of 8ppm and above for several days even over a week. The tank got real cloudy, as I understand this is a bacteria bloom, so I did not want to do a WC and take out the BB that was blooming, per the LFS expert. Made cents to me. Also, I had nitrite that was going up, so I switched to Amquel+ that removes all of that harmful stuff and my fish showed me that it worked well by becoming more active and less stressed. Now my tank water is getting clearer on it's own and My ammonia (ammonium) levels are coming down and I have no nitrite levels too. Also, I bought the seachem ammonia meter that sticks to the inside of your tank and gives a constant reading, that measures "free ammonia" I'm guessing that that means it does not read ammonium. Now my free ammonia levels are almost in the safe zone (between .05 & .02ppm).
Mostly you have to just hold on to your armrest and let it cycle, but there are several things you can do to keep your fish alive, you just have to find a way to do it. As long as they stay alive and the tank cycles I feel you are a winner.
I do not disagree with the WC method, but as far as I have heard the BB also live in the water, not just on stuff. I kind of wish I would not have done so many WCs because I think my tank would have been done cycling if I would have only done one per week or so. Not sure though. As mentioned at the outset, I have done several things to keep them alive. Actually, I have lost some because of the PH swing that I had due to too many WCs and too much water being changed that I wasn't able to keep the PH constant. This is the only exception to the statement that I made about the methods working to keep my fish alive. Anyway, I hope you can keep them all alive one way or the other.
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