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post #41 of 104 Old 09-06-2010, 08:17 PM Thread Starter
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Which would be better, two female or one male apistogramma?
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post #42 of 104 Old 09-07-2010, 10:21 AM
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Ok, added pennywort to the shopping cart :)

Which would be better, two female or one male apistogramma?
Best kept as one male with 2+ females. The male has the beautiful colouration, females are plain.

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post #43 of 104 Old 09-07-2010, 05:49 PM Thread Starter
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How likely are the chances of having fry? If I get, lets say, 3 females and 1 male, will they mate? If, the chances are pretty high, can I have just 1 male? Will he be aggressive?

Also, what is the growth rate of Amazon Sword? I bought two several months ago for my 10 galllon, then decided to do the biotope, and just put them in a 1 gallon with low light (not the best growing conditions, I know). Well now turns out I can use them. The only light is window light, no fish, no Co2, no heater, just Jungle root tabs. Should I use Flourish, too? Also, currently there is no water movement, is that ok?

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How likely are the chances of having fry? If I get, lets say, 3 females and 1 male, will they mate? If, the chances are pretty high, can I have just 1 male? Will he be aggressive?
Almost guaranteed a male/female in the same tank will spawn. Cichlids protect their eggs and fry quite well, although in community tanks something usually gets them before long. It is amazing (well, probably not all that amazing really) how determined fish as "innocent" as corys can be when they detect fry. Most cichlids should be kept in a pair or group, with a few exceptions. It is more natural, and the spawning rituals can be very fascinating to observe.

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Also, what is the growth rate of Amazon Sword? I bought two several months ago for my 10 galllon, then decided to do the biotope, and just put them in a 1 gallon with low light (not the best growing conditions, I know). Well now turns out I can use them. The only light is window light, no fish, no Co2, no heater, just Jungle root tabs. Should I use Flourish, too? Also, currently there is no water movement, is that ok?
If you mean the Echinodorus bleherae, one will almost fill your 20g by itself once it gets going. But regular removel of some of the older leaves may inhibit growth a bit. I have found this species to basically grow to the aquarium size and not much beyond, especially if light is moderate and it is not overfed with nutrients.

Are your questions related to the 20g, or the temporary 1 gallon? In the 1 g as a temporary measure, the plants should remain alive. In the 20g I would absolutely consider artifical light, and fertilization. Root tabs are good with swords, and if you have any other plants such as floating or stem, liquid fert will be needed and the swords will make use of that too. CO2 is not necessary for swords.

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Don't be. How can any of us learn if we don't ask questions?

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post #45 of 104 Old 09-07-2010, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the quick answers.

I would love to breed the apistogrammas, but I don't have anywhere to sell/giveaway the fry.

The questions were for the 20g (annd I will get artifical light within 3-4 months), but considering how big the amazon swords will get, is there any smaller type of sword that won't take over my tank :)?
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Thanks for the quick answers.

I would love to breed the apistogrammas, but I don't have anywhere to sell/giveaway the fry.

The questions were for the 20g (annd I will get artifical light within 3-4 months), but considering how big the amazon swords will get, is there any smaller type of sword that won't take over my tank :)?
I would hold off on the apistos for the present until the tank is established. There are other species too, for later.

Check the plant profiles for the Dwarf Sword and Pygmy Chain Sword (click on shaded names...). I would still use the sword you have, it might be Echinodorus amazonicus and not E. bleherae, they are identical but the E. amazonicus remains smaller.

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post #47 of 104 Old 09-07-2010, 07:31 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, I'll keep it for now. I got it from petco in one of those plastic tube things if that helps with identitfictation...
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Ok, I'll keep it for now. I got it from petco in one of those plastic tube things if that helps with identitfictation...
Be thankful it was a true sword. Chain stores frequently sell terrestrial plants as aquarium plants and they do not last.

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Probably too late, but Anubias is asian, not amazon. :P

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Probably too late, but Anubias is asian, not amazon. :P
African I think you mean, slip of the tongue (or keys). I didn't even see Anubias mentioned, must be really past it.

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