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Am I doing everything right?
Old 11-30-2010, 12:26 PM   #1
 
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Am I doing everything right?

When I was younger used to have goldfish then several years ago decided to get some tropical fish, it was a small tank and only 3 fish but it was a start, i moved about a lot so stopped having fish as too much effort is needed to move fish.

I have had a 4foot tank for a while now (think its 200 tank), that was not used but decided again to get some fish, which I probably will in the new year.

I am planning on setting up the tank and cycling it, can anyone advise if i will be doing anything wrong, yes i could could read books but the best advice can be got but existing people who have fish of their own.

I plan on filling the tank with gravel, add filter and heater and then the tap water and switching it all on, i will then add declorination liquid then some bacteria liquid to get things started, i will let the tank cycle the water for about a week then i will get some live plants and add them.

I will then leave the tank for a few weeks then get my fish, not sure what i will get yet but possibly a few of the most popular ones and a few shoalers

my main question is, is everything i plan on doing thats highlighted above the correct thing to do, or should i do some other things?
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:02 PM   #2
 
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You posted in the Saltwater forum. Can you please clarify if this will be a freshwater or saltwater aquarium? Thanks!
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Old 11-30-2010, 05:34 PM   #3
 
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You posted in the Saltwater forum. Can you please clarify if this will be a freshwater or saltwater aquarium? Thanks!

sorry did not notice... its freshwater
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Old 11-30-2010, 08:52 PM   #4
 
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When I was younger used to have goldfish then several years ago decided to get some tropical fish, it was a small tank and only 3 fish but it was a start, i moved about a lot so stopped having fish as too much effort is needed to move fish.

I have had a 4foot tank for a while now (think its 200 tank), that was not used but decided again to get some fish, which I probably will in the new year.

I am planning on setting up the tank and cycling it, can anyone advise if i will be doing anything wrong, yes i could could read books but the best advice can be got but existing people who have fish of their own.

I plan on filling the tank with gravel, add filter and heater and then the tap water and switching it all on, i will then add declorination liquid then some bacteria liquid to get things started, i will let the tank cycle the water for about a week then i will get some live plants and add them.

I will then leave the tank for a few weeks then get my fish, not sure what i will get yet but possibly a few of the most popular ones and a few shoalers

my main question is, is everything i plan on doing thats highlighted above the correct thing to do, or should i do some other things?
First thing, welcome to Tropical Fish Keeping forum.

Now to business. You intend live plants, so you can save yourself some work by planting the tank from the first. My method for a new tank is to wash (thoroughly) the gravel and put it in, arrange any wood or rock, then plant it. Some do this without water, I prefer having the tank about 2/3 full so I have less chance of damaging the plant stems; I add conditioner to the water if plants, wood, rock is coming from another existing tank so as not to kill the bacteria, but sometimes I don't fuss with this. Once it is planted, fill the tank and turn on the filter and heater (use warm water at about the set temperature to avoid overworking the heater). Let things sit overnight to ensure the tank doesn't leak, filter works and no leaks, and heater is properly working.

I would not bother with bacteria supplements as you have live plants. Plants need nitrogen as one of their macro-nutrients, and they prefer it as ammonium. The ammonia produced by fish and bacteria changes to ammonium in acidic water, or in basic the plants can convert it internally. They use a lot of it. Once you have plants, you can add a few fish immediately. There will be no cycle, provided there are sufficient plants and few fish. Some bacteria will still appear and colonize the surfaces, but the plants do the main job.

Important: Research your fish before you acquire them. We have profiles here, second tab from the left in the blue bar at the top, and most of the commonly-available fish are included. Not all fish will last together. Fish have (sometimes) quite specific needs in water parameters (pH, hardness and temperature), or their environment--some need wood, some plants, some minimal water flow, some floating plants, some dim light--it is best to know this for each fish you might want and then select those that have the same basic requirements. And of course are compatible behaviorally.

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Old 12-01-2010, 05:44 AM   #5
 
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Just as as an additional note, i will be using the following in the tank

Moss ball - aquarium Marimo ball | Aquariums Life

Dorset Pea Gravel Medium (roughly 35kg-40kg)

25x Live plants - 25 LIVE TROPICAL FISH AQUATIC AQUARIUM TANK PLANTS on eBay (end time 05-Dec-10 09:37:31 GMT)
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:07 PM   #6
 
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Just as as an additional note, i will be using the following in the tank

Moss ball - aquarium Marimo ball | Aquariums Life

Dorset Pea Gravel Medium (roughly 35kg-40kg)

25x Live plants - 25 LIVE TROPICAL FISH AQUATIC AQUARIUM TANK PLANTS on eBay (end time 05-Dec-10 09:37:31 GMT)
Don't know the gravel specifically, but you might consider a smaller grain (it says medium). The smallest grain gravel is the best plant substrate with respect to anchoring the plants, encouraging root development, and promoting good bacteria bed with water flow.

Having said that, normal "pea" gravel will suffice, I have it in one tank; but plants do grow better in smaller grain size if you have the option.
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Old 12-01-2010, 03:20 PM   #8
 
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Don't know the gravel specifically, but you might consider a smaller grain (it says medium). The smallest grain gravel is the best plant substrate with respect to anchoring the plants, encouraging root development, and promoting good bacteria bed with water flow.

Having said that, normal "pea" gravel will suffice, I have it in one tank; but plants do grow better in smaller grain size if you have the option.

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to be honest i went with the cheapest gravel option, i was able to get 40kg for 16 (CAN $25), and thats pretty cheap. it was hard to tell if too big or not, will just have to chance it when it arrives.
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Old 12-01-2010, 10:52 PM   #9
 
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to be honest i went with the cheapest gravel option, i was able to get 40kg for 16 (CAN $25), and thats pretty cheap. it was hard to tell if too big or not, will just have to chance it when it arrives.
If you have the option of sand, it is usually cheap depends on your preferences though. 2 bucks for a 5 pound bag.
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