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post #11 of 24 Old 07-30-2010, 12:24 AM Thread Starter
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yeah i might not get the neons. i already have the guppies. what other schooling fish can i house with 2 guppies? Maybe black neons? heard they're pretty hardy. If not them, then how about zebra danios?
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post #12 of 24 Old 07-30-2010, 12:45 AM
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Zebra danio are too active for a small tank, they need swimming room. You can check this out in our fish profile, click on the shaded name.

Black neon is in much the same boat as neon tetra; while they tolerate up to pH 7.5 they fare better below 7.

There are a few fish in the profiles (under cyprinids and characins) that would manage in basic water, but some will need more space. But you may get some ideas.

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post #13 of 24 Old 07-30-2010, 01:33 AM Thread Starter
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man.. haha i see. How about glowlight danios? If not, what would you suggest for me? beacuse this is my first aquarium and although it is my first, i am very serious about it and am willing to learn all the basics and stuff i have to to keep my fish happy. So... no neons, on the edge for danios due to swimming room, no WCMM due to params, maybe glowlights?
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post #14 of 24 Old 07-30-2010, 01:55 AM
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I think Glowlight Tetra would work, they adapt better to higher pH, though some report they are not quite as colourful as they are in softer acidic water.

I find it difficult suggesting fish to others, as it should be what you like, not what I like. But I feel obligated to offer advice on water and such for fish you may consider. Just thought, do you know what type of fish they have in the store that you like? I could offer comments on species, or you can look them up in the profiles. I always research any fish before I buy it so I know exactly what to expect from it and what I need to provbide for it to be healthy, so I think you are right to do much the same.

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Well if i had what i liked, id get neons, and if not them, then WCMM's, if not them, then zebras, if not them then i guess glowlights. haha But i really appreciate the advice, i don't wanna stress my fish out if there isn't enough room for them in my tank(: I guess i'll get the glowlights when my tank is cycled, then add them in, in groups of 2, in a period of 3-4 weeks? sound good?

I'm trying to buy my fish from my local petsmart while the $1 per fish sale is still available (ends august 22), so thats why im kinda in a rush to cycle my tank before the sale ends because i could save about $1.50-$2 per fish.

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post #16 of 24 Old 07-30-2010, 02:31 AM Thread Starter
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hmm... i think i'll get glowlight tetras. I did the aqadvisor.com stocking calculator with 1 betta, 2 guppies, and 10 glowlights, and the stocking level is 94%. Idk though, i may just stick with 8 glowlights if there is not enough room for them all. I may actually remove the betta and either add another 1 or 2 guppies, or make the glowlights school bigger if possible/safe. What do you guys think? enough room for more than 8 glowlights?

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post #17 of 24 Old 07-30-2010, 04:04 PM
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In a 10g, I would not mix guppies and glowlights or anything else. The shoaling fish need 6+ and that is going to take up "space" (including water wise). And 8 tetra in a 10g is pushing it.

I had forgotten the betta I guess. One thing to watch out for, is any fish like guppies or tetra may well take to nipping the betta. And I have heard that betta will be aggressive to guppies due supposedly to the colouration.

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post #18 of 24 Old 07-30-2010, 04:08 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah, im not planning on keeping him in the community tank, because i don't wanna risk him killing the guppies. But you're saying that guppies and glowlights shouldn't be put in the same tank together? and after some research, i've settled that IF im gonna get glowlights, im getting only 5 or 6. No more than that. But I wanna house them with the guppies. is it safe? if not, why?
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My dad has a betta with his guppies and there hasn't been any problem.As far as the Petsmart sale;they have them often so I wouldn't rush just because of that.Their prices are pretty reasonable even without the sales.

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Yeah, im not planning on keeping him in the community tank, because i don't wanna risk him killing the guppies. But you're saying that guppies and glowlights shouldn't be put in the same tank together? and after some research, i've settled that IF im gonna get glowlights, im getting only 5 or 6. No more than that. But I wanna house them with the guppies. is it safe? if not, why?
If you already have the guppies, fine. But I would not go out and acquire these two fish for the same 10g tank. There's not a lot of space, and I think a shoal of 6-7 tetra in a nicely planted 10g could be a real showpiece.

It's mainly my personal preferences showing through. Like I said, I am somewhat uncomfortable suggesting fish for other aquarists; we all have our own preferences.

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