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Adding different substrate to established tank
Old 03-18-2013, 07:12 AM   #31
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Yeah, yours looks pretty white in the pic but they're probably pretty similar in person.
I'm wondering if there's a difference regionally or just between America/Canada. I think JDM has playsand, and he lives in Canada. Need to get a close-up pic of it....
The pics don't need much explanation other than the mud shots, the first is before rinsing and the second is after.

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Old 03-18-2013, 07:39 AM   #32
 
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Mine is the beige Quikrete Play Sand shown in many photos. It looks to me like there is a pretty significant difference in the grain size also when compared to Byron's. I would prefer to have the type he has; however, I'm still glad I made the switch.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:14 AM   #33
 
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Thanks for the detailed pic JDM :D
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:23 AM   #34
 
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I think the sand in Jeff's photos is very similar to mine, if not identical (colour/hue). My Quikrete is lighter in the tank than it is in the air, even when wet. And that is what I see in Jeff's photos. It may be the "daylight" light over the tank and shining through the water that lightens the sand. When I had the Flourite Black I noticed that in the tank it was not really "black" but more of a sort of faded out black.
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:26 AM   #35
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I have some quickrete sand that I will rinse and look at, now I am curious.

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Old 03-18-2013, 02:56 PM   #36
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Quickrete sand purchased in Smiths Falls at a local TSC store.

It has been rinsed, put into a jar and covered in water by a few inches and jiggled a bit to let the sand settle out a bit to sort of simulate an aquarium look. It is much darker over all and has a smaller average grain size than my current tank sand. Although it seems to have some larger gains. I expect over time that the larger grains would be more apparent as the finer grains settle into the bottom.

Hmmm... I will do a dry closeup later to see what the composition is. I already know there is a fair amount of limestone in there and it looks less "quartzy" than the other.

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Old 03-18-2013, 03:21 PM   #37
 
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It's just regular old Quikcrete playsand? I know they sell 'all purpose' sand, but I wouldn't doubt there must be some kind of regional difference.

I'm really starting to think our sand may be beach sand, while yours is either lake or something else.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:38 PM   #38
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Stay away from the all purpose sand it will probably have crap in it.

My sand is lake sand , called beach sand, hence the shell particles. There aren't any shells in the quickrete product.

It's hard to judge what it will look like in the tank when seeing it just out of the bag. It looks different. I'll put up a comparative shot when I get home.

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Old 03-18-2013, 05:40 PM   #39
 
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Man, I'm bummed. That sand is so gorgeous, I wish I knew of a way to get sand like that. I can't find anywhere selling sand similar to that. I looked through some of the info on Quikcrete products, and this is all I could find of some value.

"Appearance: White or tan sand, granular, crushed, or ground to fine mesh sizes"

Mine would fall under tan, while yours seems to be the crushed/ground. But I can't find anywhere about regional differences/where they source it.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:11 AM   #40
 
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Wow! Thanks for all those great sand pictures. I like Byron's and JDM's; not only are they a bit darker, they look more natural to me than my Quickrite Premium play sand. That is definitely like at day at Ocean City beach. The difference in color explains why I felt like the mulm and other detritus shows up much more clearly on my play sand than on the Eco complete, which reminds me of a rich potting soil.

I have only bought the one bag from Home Depot, but I would imagine Lowes carries a similar product. I'll have to look around.

I did buy a very expensive 20 lb bag of Caribsea black sand at PetSmart; I'm going to do an experiment layering it with Eco Complete in a jar of water and see what comes of it. It seems to be the only local black sand I can come across, but something brownish or salt & pepper would be nice. Maybe I'll experiment with mixing the play sand with it to see if I can get a nice hybrid sandy substrate!
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