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post #1 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 10:29 AM Thread Starter
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I just added river rock to my tank which before was bare bottomed. I washed the rocks with a hose realy well beforehand bt the water looks realy unnatractive (although the turtle doesnt seem to mind) is there a was to remove the cloudyness and how long will it take for it to settle on its own?
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post #2 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 11:37 AM
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The water will settle on its own.If its still cloudy in a couple of days rinsing the filter mdia and a water change will help.I wouldn't use any of the water clarifying chemicals.

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The water will settle on its own.If its still cloudy in a couple of days rinsing the filter mdia and a water change will help.I wouldn't use any of the water clarifying chemicals.
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post #4 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 11:46 AM
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Agree.

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post #5 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
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Its cleared up a bit now. Its not crystal but you can see the back wall now. My turtle has already gone to work remodleing the recks to suit his tastes so i think that may be disrupting the settle. Also i have another question, i have a whisper 40i in this tank and i have had other filters such as the 20i and 10i. I would like to put some plants in this tank but before when i had plants with this type of filter they clogged the pump. I have tried panty hose but it keeps out the smaller particled as well and it stops the intake. Any suggestions? I think he would realy like to be able to graze on plants now that he is getting older and more herbivorous.
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post #6 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 12:59 PM
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I was going to suggest suitable plants to be Anubias and Java Fern, from the aspect that they attach to rocks and wood so you can place them where you want them, they will not fall apart to clog filters, and a turtle is unlikely to eat them. But then I see you want plants it will eat too. So perhaps have some Anubias of JF for "permanent" appearance, and provide a nice soft stem plant for his browsing. Stem plants can be floated [this may clog your filter though?]. A good floating plant that is edible (many herbivorous fish like it) is Ceratopteris cornuta, and given its growth it is large-leaved and less likely to clog filter intakes.

On another note, if this is going to remain turtle-related, I can move the thread to the Turtle seection. More turtle folks may se it there and comment. Please advise (Salamance).

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post #7 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 04:11 PM Thread Starter
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I am more looking for aquarium advice then advice that specifies to my turtle. He doesn't eat plants very much and i am just trying to encourage him eating them. Can you recomend a soft plant that will cling to the rocks? Java moss is the thing that realy kills the filters due to the long strands but i havent realy tried much else. I have another tank with a few plants in it but i dont realy know much about having a fully planted tank.

I think the attached ones are a good option becasue, like most turtles, he tends to landscape when he pleases. The tank also has 10 head and tail light tetras which i chose because they are both fast and they require water needs that overlap with a red eared sliders.

I have herd about adding liquid fertalizer and CO2 things and i would like to know if they will be nessisary with this tank. It is a 45 breeder about 3/4 full of water. floating plants arent a problem because the water intake is so close to the bottom. The current at the mouth of the filter is strong enough to push floating surface plants away from the intake.
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I am more looking for aquarium advice then advice that specifies to my turtle. He doesn't eat plants very much and i am just trying to encourage him eating them. Can you recomend a soft plant that will cling to the rocks? Java moss is the thing that realy kills the filters due to the long strands but i havent realy tried much else. I have another tank with a few plants in it but i dont realy know much about having a fully planted tank.

I think the attached ones are a good option becasue, like most turtles, he tends to landscape when he pleases. The tank also has 10 head and tail light tetras which i chose because they are both fast and they require water needs that overlap with a red eared sliders.

I have herd about adding liquid fertalizer and CO2 things and i would like to know if they will be nessisary with this tank. It is a 45 breeder about 3/4 full of water. floating plants arent a problem because the water intake is so close to the bottom. The current at the mouth of the filter is strong enough to push floating surface plants away from the intake.
I suspect the turtle will not eat Anubias, and all species are much the same--tough, thick dark green leaves, and as far as I have hedard not a food item for fish due to its toughness, and possibly the taste. I know JF tastes bad (not from personal experience mind you, just what others have written). As the turtle matures, it will become more vegetarian.

CO2 will not be necessary, and frankly wasted. Liquid fertilizers are usually required because all plants need 17 nutrients and all these are unlikely to be present from waste, fishfood, minerals in the tap water, etc. Plants like Anubias and JF are lower in nutrient requirements that faster growing plants, so a basic liquid fertilizer like Nutrafin's Plant-Gro would be sufficient. I usually recommend Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the Planted Aquarium as it is complete and extremely good, so if you do get more plants and decide on some faster growing ones for the turtle to nibble, Flourish Comprehensive would be better. And here I would say some stem plants that are left floating would be ideal. Something like Brazilian Pennywort, it is in our plant profiles (click the shaded name).

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post #9 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 07:46 PM
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Could tie some anarchis to a rock... :P

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post #10 of 10 Old 08-19-2010, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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I wont be able to go shopping again until next week but when i do and the tank is set up i will post a pic or two to show you the planted setup. Thanks for all the help! If i have any more plant problems i will make a new thread in here.
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